[Topher]

for starters it's not American

What's that got to do with anything?

I still don't fully understand what relevance that had to what I was talking about.

You said it was the only thing he'd done that you hated... therefore you are wrong, as Keith Lemon is shit.

[Nicola_Red]

I used to quite like Keith Lemon, but he's way past his best now. Leigh Francis doesn't seem to quite know when his characters have outlived their comic potential.

(Also Star Wars rules. Obvs.)

[chrysostom]

omghangover

[Bruvva]

(Also Star Wars rules. Obvs.)

Star Wars, Empire and 50% of Jedi (they really can * off with the ewoks) rule. Episodes 1-3 are an aberration and not worth mentioning.

In fact, any excuse

[JayE]

for starters it's not American

What's that got to do with anything?

I still don't fully understand what relevance that had to what I was talking about.

You said it was the only thing he'd done that you hated... therefore you are wrong, as Keith Lemon is shit.

Naaaaaaaaaaaa.

[JayE]

Oops double post.

[Misfit]

star wars (or a new hope for the later versions) - second best film ever made
empire strikes back - still good but not as good as the first.
return of the jedi - good space battle but boring bit on endor
phantom menace - introduced jar jar binks. nuff said
attack of the clones - good battle at the end, rest is boring
revenge of the sith - very very good. love the battle between obi wan and anikan. great FX with the lava and that.

family guy parodies- hilarious


EDIT: best film ever made was Back to the future. if anyone cares.

[JayE]

Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back is the best star wars in my opinion. I agree the family guy parodies are brilliant.
Back to the future is also probably my second favourite saga trilogy ever (Star Wars being the first of course)

[The Deadly]

You should respect your mother and not talk about her like that. If she is doing the things you mentioned then maybe you should try speaking to her like an adult instead of posting it on a message board to strangers.

[Nicola_Red]

Well done Deadly, you've won this year's Most Patronising award.

Lottie, my mother drives me crazy too - almost every time I see her I get a lecture about my health, which invariably makes me feel like a child incapable of running my own life (bearing in mind I'm almost 40, engaged and have lived in a different city for 15yrs). I still love her, as I know you do yours, but she just doesn't see certain things the way I do. Perhaps tackling the subject with her would help but I always feel that it's better to grit my teeth and endure it in the knowledge that I'll be away again in a day or two, rather than risk a potential family rift. Of course when you live with her, it's a different matter entirely.

[The Deadly]

It isn't patronising at all. If she hates living with her mother so much then she has the ability to leave and find somewhere else to live. I find the way she speaks about her mother extremely disrespectful.

[The Deadly]

Well it's your life I guess. I have little or no empathy for people so you'll have to excuse my somewhat flippant tone. I just think life is way too short for family feuding. If you both carry on hating each other then one day you'll really regret it.

[Nicola_Red]

It isn't patronising at all. If she hates living with her mother so much then she has the ability to leave and find somewhere else to live. I find the way she speaks about her mother extremely disrespectful.

Lottie's circumstances are not the point, it's the fact you feel the need to speak to her as if she's a child and you're an adult. It's not your job to tell her to respect her mother. She can figure out on her own whether her mother deserves respect.

[bmstinton93]

Course you do Deadly. I do try to talk to her but she doesn't listen. I've tried to reason with her and explain my point of view but she doesn't respect it. I come on here to vent my frustrations which is the point of the thread.

At the moment, I can't leave and find somewhere else to live so I rather vent through a post here rather than other less suitable ways.

I'm disappointed in you, I expected a lot more fight from you on that post!

Hope the situation improves anyway. Are you not going back to uni next year anyway?

[Yudster]

I'm not suggesting that this is the case with Lottie's mother, but how appropriate is it actually to show respect to someone who hasn't done anything to deserve it, even if they are your parent? I'm very lucky, whilst I certainly haven't always had an easy relationship with either of my parents, ultimately they definitely deserve and have my respect. My mum is an amazing person, and my dad was remarkable. Surely its unrealistic to assume that just being a parent makes you worthy of respect though. There are loads of people who are scummy and revolting - having a child rarely alters that, and under those circumstances, surely the child is more entitled than anyone to not hold them in respect?

[Boboff]

Lottie, I feel your pain. My Mother and I did not get on, and I moved out at 16, it was simple in the end, she just did not like me, and showed none of the usual signs of love a mother should have for her son. I was bitter and angry for many years, as I felt it wasn't fair.

Some time you don't get the Mum you deserve, we still speak, and she's better now she's retired.

Deadly, your reply to lottie left me a bit stunned. I am not sure if you were trying to be funny? Anyway, stating you don't do empathy as a defense, marks you out as a complete and utter knobber dobber, which I hadn't had you down for previously! Oh well!*

*this is the considered and mindful response.

[chrysostom]

I remember reading something like this during my degree about a lack of emotional empathy, interesting stuff (if true)

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sto ... stic-trait

[The Deadly]

Lottie, I feel your pain. My Mother and I did not get on, and I moved out at 16, it was simple in the end, she just did not like me, and showed none of the usual signs of love a mother should have for her son. I was bitter and angry for many years, as I felt it wasn't fair.

Some time you don't get the Mum you deserve, we still speak, and she's better now she's retired.

Deadly, your reply to lottie left me a bit stunned. I am not sure if you were trying to be funny? Anyway, stating you don't do empathy as a defense, marks you out as a complete and utter knobber dobber, which I hadn't had you down for previously! Oh well!*

*this is the considered and mindful response.

I'm not here to be nice I'm here to tell it like it is and give my opinion. If you disagree with the opinion I gave then fine by me.
Also having absolutely no empathy or sympathy isn't a defence against anything as I don't feel I said anything out of line. If someone wants to air their dirty laundry on a public forum then expect people to chip in be it positive or negative. The point I was making is I thought her choice of words are disrespectful. What is the problem with that?

[Boboff]

What ever Trevor.

*.

[Topher]

I'm not here to be nice I'm here to tell it like it is and give my opinion. If you disagree with the opinion I gave then fine by me.
Also having absolutely no empathy or sympathy isn't a defence against anything as I don't feel I said anything out of line. If someone wants to air their dirty laundry on a public forum then expect people to chip in be it positive or negative. The point I was making is I thought her choice of words are disrespectful. What is the problem with that?

It's not your place to say whether she's being respectful or disrespectful, especially not knowing the full story - you had such a strong reaction to it that you almost seemed offended on behalf of her mother, which is very odd, considering you've never met either of them. As mentioned previously, this is a forum to air your frustration, which is what she was doing. You said you weren't being patronising - that's a matter of opinion and I think most people would disagree with that. I can only assume - again - that you are being controversial for the sake of being controversial.

[The Deadly]

What ever Trevor.

*.

Well this is an offensive comment so I take it Boboff will be warned?

[bmstinton93]

He never said you're a *. He just randomly typed the word.

[The Deadly]

I'm not here to be nice I'm here to tell it like it is and give my opinion. If you disagree with the opinion I gave then fine by me.
Also having absolutely no empathy or sympathy isn't a defence against anything as I don't feel I said anything out of line. If someone wants to air their dirty laundry on a public forum then expect people to chip in be it positive or negative. The point I was making is I thought her choice of words are disrespectful. What is the problem with that?

It's not your place to say whether she's being respectful or disrespectful, especially not knowing the full story - you had such a strong reaction to it that you almost seemed offended on behalf of her mother, which is very odd, considering you've never met either of them. As mentioned previously, this is a forum to air your frustration, which is what she was doing. You said you weren't being patronising - that's a matter of opinion and I think most people would disagree with that. I can only assume - again - that you are being controversial for the sake of being controversial.

If you post things on a public forum it is my place to pass comment as long as it follows the rules. If you can be bothered to read up the page you'll see that far from being offended Charlotte explained the situation in more detail and we conversed about it. Can you explain why it is controversial to disagree with how somebody speaks about their mother? It is just a matter of opinion plain and simple.

[Topher]

Well this is an offensive comment so I take it Boboff will be warned?

If you post things on a public forum it is my place to pass comment as long as it follows the rules.

That is true. It is also everyone else's place to call you up if they think you're being a dick about it, which most people seem to think you were.

[The Deadly]

Unfortunately you are correct in what you say as the majority of the people here will agree with each other for the sake of it. Sheep.