[MrAndee]

to properly deconstruct the feature you should focus on the positives as well as the negatives , in that regard the post was indeed overly negative. I for one have enjoyed the feature, the only downside being dave-in-a-box but even they laugh about that they know it was rubbish. but a good rubbish. like with the chelmsford/colchester thing

[Yudster]

I think he was giving his opinion though, not deconstructing anything.

[MrAndee]

his opinion was wrong though, with respect.

[Yudster]

Well I didn't agree with it I have to admit. But I approved of the way he expressed it!

I think perhaps what you were saying was that it seems a shame that having been a fan for so many years, he should only sign up and participate in the discussion on the show's fansite with a negative view. Its a pity that the only thing he felt like sharing with us was the only thing he has disliked.

[Emmy]

Well I didn't agree with it I have to admit. But I approved of the way he expressed it!

I think perhaps what you were saying was that it seems a shame that having been a fan for so many years, he should only sign up and participate in the discussion on the show's fansite with a negative view. Its a pity that the only thing he felt like sharing with us was the only thing he has disliked.

That's the way it tends to go though, people are generally a lot more motivated and likely to give negative feedback about things they've disliked than they are to make positive comments about things they have enjoyed. I know I am.

[Wykey]

....... phobia/fear (where is the line drawn between the two?)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_fear_and_phobias

And that is why people saying "I don't like heights, but I wouldn't be bothered by this and that" should think about what they're going to say, and not say it.

Or stick to telling people with depression to cheer up.

[Wykey]

I’m merely echoing many other posters when I say how disappointed I was that this massive feature was effectively made for the small viewing audience rather than for the millions who have audio only. It smacks of contempt for the millions who listen each day with a “sod you” attitude.

I too can admire the construction and arrangement of your post, and while I understand this may well be your legitimately held opinion, but with respect, that's absolute bollocks of the worst kind.

[Emmy]

....... phobia/fear (where is the line drawn between the two?)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_fear_and_phobias

That link states that 'phobias are irrational fears of a certain object or situation', but who decideswhether a phobia is rational or irrational? I was always told my lift phobia was irrational, but that didn't seem to be the case to me when I got stuck in one.

On the subject of other so called irrational fears, namely flying, try telling all those supposedly reassuring statistic that people often give about how low the chances are of being involved in a plane crash to this poor kid http://www.metro.co.uk/news/867538-seco ... stin-hatch. I know that small aircraft are in a different category to airliners, which most people travel on, but still!

[LordMonkcheese]

Hang on - one complaint in "many years" can't really be labelled "overly negative"! Specifically negative maybe, but he can spell and construct a couple of paragraphs of writing so that they make sense - makes up for a lot as far as I'm concerned!

Why thank you. I may just stick around.

I too can admire the construction and arrangement of your post, and while I understand this may well be your legitimately held opinion, but with respect, that's absolute bollocks of the worst kind.

Actually, on second thoughts, bye

[MK Chris]

I was always told my lift phobia was irrational, but that didn't seem to be the case to me when I got stuck in one.

On the subject of other so called irrational fears, namely flying, try telling all those supposedly reassuring statistic that people often give about how low the chances are of being involved in a plane crash to this poor kid http://www.metro.co.uk/news/867538-seco ... stin-hatch. I know that small aircraft are in a different category to airliners, which most people travel on, but still!

A fear of lifts is irrational because realistically no harm can come from going in one. Getting stuck is temporary and realistically you can get out with no harm done - I have been stuck in a lift before myself. A fear of flying is also irrational; a fear of crashing is more rational.

[Yudster]

I’m merely echoing many other posters when I say how disappointed I was that this massive feature was effectively made for the small viewing audience rather than for the millions who have audio only. It smacks of contempt for the millions who listen each day with a “sod you” attitude.

I too can admire the construction and arrangement of your post, and while I understand this may well be your legitimately held opinion, but with respect, that's absolute bollocks of the worst kind.

Erm - Mr Andee didn't write that......

[LordMonkcheese]

Well I didn't agree with it I have to admit. But I approved of the way he expressed it!

I think perhaps what you were saying was that it seems a shame that having been a fan for so many years, he should only sign up and participate in the discussion on the show's fansite with a negative view. Its a pity that the only thing he felt like sharing with us was the only thing he has disliked.

I liked Dom's impromtu northern accent this morning but I didn't think it worthy of starting its own thread. However, if the mood takes me, I may chip in other threads with more positivity as and when it happens. I've been a fan for many years so it's not all bad. (just this feature)

[Yudster]

And just when it was going so well, you missed a full stop!

[Emmy]

A fear of lifts is irrational because realistically no harm can come from going in one.

I bet to differ. I've just (very stupidly) googled 'killed by lift'...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ident.html

You can always rely on the good old DM for the horror stories.I think it may well be back to the stairs for me!

[Travis Bickle]

Aled has been very defensive over this feature and looking back over the week I see his point, but he would have to admit that mistakes were made. They heavily promoted this feature as the toughest challenge ever, so I think it's fair that we all had high expectations.

Looking back over the week the only really poor challenge was Dave's. There are no excuses with that one..it simply didn't work and never was going to work. The problem the week had was that it got off to such a slow start. If any of Chris, Dom or Aled's challenges had kicked the week off I think we would all be hailing this as a great weeks radio. As it turned out we had nothing on the first day, a moderate challenge on the second and an appalling one on the third.

It was supposed to be a weeks worth of material, but all the good stuff(and it was very good) was crammed into the final two days!

I cant really make my mind up about whether it was too visual or not. Apart from Tina I was able to watch it all as it happened, so I don't really know how I would feel watching it live. But I do tend to think that so long as decent highlights are put on the website that I don't really mind the visual nature of the show even when I cant see it live.

[MrAndee]

wait... what? stop quoting things i've never said please.

[MK Chris]

A fear of lifts is irrational because realistically no harm can come from going in one.

I bet to differ. I've just (very stupidly) googled 'killed by lift'...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ident.html

You can always rely on the good old DM for the horror stories.I think it may well be back to the stairs for me!

Ah, but how many people are killed by a lift really? I'm almost certain you'd have far, far more chance of being killed by something else that you probably do far more often than get in a lift - like crossing the road.

[Yudster]

But the point is if you are crossing a road you can take care. You can make sure you are doing it as safely as possible. When you get in a lift you have no control over the situation.

[Emmy]

I'd almost forgotten about this.

re prizes: it helped Tina. Let's discuss the prizes at the END of the week.

What's the story with the prizes then? Will each team member who won a prize actually keep and use it themselves, or will there be a twist such as them all being given away to listeners next week? Tina's prize seems like the only one there would be a bit of an issue with giving away.

[MrAndee]

But the point is if you are crossing a road you can take care. You can make sure you are doing it as safely as possible. When you get in a lift you have no control over the situation.

unless you're being a dick and jumping and down in a very old lift like the one in my flat building (scares me every day that thing)

[John_Dory]

If the main reason for the prizes was to motivate the team then I'd say they were completely unnecessary. I think everybody (apart from Dom) would have done their challenges anyway, just for the sake of the show and competition amongst themselves.

[Sally A]

Thought the tests were a bit lame to tell the truth (apart from Tina's - if you have a fear of heights and Dom's).

As for me:-

Heights - cherry picker type crane - no problem - wonky wobbly ladder, fine going up, pants coming down.
Claustrophobia - A 15ft cardboard tunnel - Ho Hum - my biggest fear would be getting my backside wedged, and eclipsing the webcam, knowing my luck I'd have a pair of scaggy knickers on that day too.
Police dog attack - the dog is trained to go for the padded arm, to get the full effect wear a t shirt and be running away and let the dog floor you - I like dogs, and know they are trained to disable rather than maim.
Parachute jump - yes did this in 1982 at RAF Colerne, just me with an automatic 'chute release thingy - still nearly landed on a hangar roof, and broke my little toe (A lot more painful than it sounds ). Would I do it again - nah, I'm probably too old now the plane was so rickety, I was glad to jump out of it - balancing on the foot plate beneath the wing was freaky though.
Spiders - love them, a big fluffy wuffy snuggly tarantula, with a bite as powerful as a bee sting (tops) - nil problemo: despite liking spiders, it's the black sneaky looking ones that could be a Black Widow or similar that I'm wary of: once phoned Tesco as had an alien spider in my Israeli grapes, they assured me it would not be a harmful spider, and it lived in our kitchen for many months before disappearing. (House now sold ).

My fear = snakes; I can't even look at a picture without recoiling, I have managed to touch one, but their muscles flinch which made me jump like a girl (I am a girl). Would I have let one wrap itself around me?, maybe, but only if the prize was brilliant, I'd need about 12 pints of beer for anaesthetic, and the handler had a knife to behead the serpent if it strangled me, and yes I do know they can still hang on with their muscles and contract after being beheaded. YUK!!! That would be my worst fear.
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[Emmy]

If the main reason for the prizes was to motivate the team then I'd say they were completely unnecessary. I think everybody (apart from Dom) would have done their challenges anyway, just for the sake of the show and competition amongst themselves.

I agree with this 100%, and Dom would still have tried as hard as he did. But if the plan was always to give away the prizes then I've realised that as well as the getting to Ibiza issue of Tina's prize, there would also be a big problem with giving away Dom's prize, had he won it. It's unlikely that taking Peppa Pig based prizes away from three small children would go down too well, so I'm now thinking a prize giveaway may not be on the cards at all.

[MrAndee]

whats the issue with tinas prize? tongy can put anyone on his guestlist im sure

[Emmy]

whats the issue with tinas prize? tongy can put anyone on his guestlist im sure

Tina is already going to Ibiza on a planned holiday, her prize is just the VIP access in clubs.