[Wykey]

This forum doesn't like it when we try new things, especially when it takes the show out of it's comfort zone. Sticking with the same links day in day out isn't an option. Those genius moments are only genius when they're occasional - a mix of different styles on the show is important. Guests, features, visual projects, soap opera moments, team chat etc

I think you're being unfair - the reactions from what I've read here (over a long enough period of time to judge them, as the 'normal' reaction) in the VAST majority of cases are very positive towards what you do, what you try to do and what the results are.

If you read the comments on this thread, weight them all equally (and ignore the stupid comments), then again I'd consider it to be broadly supportive.

[Wykey]

There's a thread going about 'Face Your Fears' on digitalspy, http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthre ... st51092865, they're not big fans of the feature either.

In the main they're divvies though.

[McGuinness-89]

Oh, is there going to be some twist to the prizes, such as them being given away to listeners? I've just been looking at the DS thread again, and the latest post pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole feature, so I'm going to steal it.

'I am glad I'm not the only one who has found this feature a bit odd.

My main thoughts:

1. The show is still primarily a radio programme and despite streaming the antics on the web, the tasks so far are very 'visual'. It's pretty dull listening to the team saying '...oh look, Tina's doing this.......' when you're stuck on the train listening to a radio programme.

2. The hype last week was building up to a Monday launch - only for this to be deferred until Tuesday due to la Cotton's delayed return from Glastonbury.

3. Awarding 'prizes' to the presenters alienates the listeners. Why should the 'stars of the show' be afforded even more rewards beyond the reach of the average listener just for taking part in this feature.

4. This seems to stretched Aled's braincells one step too far. It must be difficult to come up constantly with new ideas, but this one seems to have failed.

5. More airtime for Fearne Cotton?

6. Even the loyal listeners on the moyles.net website are having misgivings - and they hardly criticise the show.'

It was all going so well until the very last bit! I take it this person doesn't read this forum too often...

Have to agree with most of this, the complete focus on the visual side of things is getting ridiculous, RADIO 1, the clues's in the name.

It works well for interviews and things in the evening, but when such a large percentage of you're audience are stuck in traffic or public transport and you do something so massively visual, it's not really fair.

The other big problem is Fearne Cotton, I don't intensely dislike her as much as I use to, but she's just a completely unnecessary extra voice who keeps talking over everyone.

I've still got my fingers crossed tomorrow will be brilliant though.

[DarroM]

because it's clear even they know this feature sucks at the moment.

Don't pick a fight - the feedback I'm feeling from here is so different to the feedback on Twitter / Text / from Radio 1 staff.

I was disappointed with how challenge went with Dave. Dave not being THAT scared, the tunnel not looking as bad as it was to experience and the way Dave handles fear which is to grit his teeth and get on with it - and not screaming like the rest of us would. That's it - please don't read anymore into that.

None of the other reasons laid out here bother me. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but that doesn't make things fact. This forum doesn't like it when we try new things, especially when it takes the show out of it's comfort zone. Sticking with the same links day in day out isn't an option. Those genius moments are only genius when they're occasional - a mix of different styles on the show is important. Guests, features, visual projects, soap opera moments, team chat etc

You guys are influential - don't kill features before they've played out. Tina's was great - with tweaks needed - but that's all they were, tweaks. Dave's was Dave (see above) tomorrow Chris, Dom AND Dave will be attempting to face their fears. For me, v exciting and v scary! If a radio show can encourage that kind of feeling - that's huge, and something we should be proud of (I refer you to the formulaic radio of some of our competitors) - even if the 60 - 90second payoff didn't live up to it (which I think it still will btw) that's fine with me.

Defensive rant over.

The main problem some people seem to have is that the feature is far too visual and a majority of people will be listening to it on the bus to school, at work etc. Sure they are able to watch it when they are at home on the website but it is not the same experiencing it live. Today's challenge was a bit of a dud unfortunately and I feel it might have been better if you did something like I'm a Celebrity where you stick him in some sort of box or whatnot and he had to stay there for a certain period of time while you're pumping Pet Shop Boys music in. Don't know if it would have been compelling radio but it would have perhaps make a more exciting challenge than what you got and Dave might have been genuinely scared.

The week is not over yet and I'm hopeful tomorrow will be better!

[jsnsmith]

Yes. At least it would be watchable !

I agree but i think you may need a reality check.

Maybe if there had been a second camera on the ground it
might have given you a better perspective of what was going on.

Excuse me. A reality check ? I am well aware how tall those buildings are.

Had Tina been in a large unprotected cage, no harness and no man standing beside her it would have been scary.

I think you missed the point i was trying to make. Your insane! Are you trying to kill her? All it would take is a small breeze
to blow her off. I think it's fair to say there's no fly's on Mr Dave vitty after todays challenge. Today's challenge reminded me
of something Frankside bottom would of done.

[Travis Bickle]

I have had an issue with visual stuff on the show before, but only because the highlights that were later available on the website were far too brief. For example the week in Carlisle was a bit of a waste for me as so little of it was available online for people who were not able to watch live.

As I type this the Dave video still isnt up, but Tina's one lasted ten minutes and I was happy with that. (I saw todays live by the way)

Tina's challenge was ok in my opinion but the whole thing had been hyped so much that I was underwhelmed in the end. The thing with Dave today didn't work for a few reasons and the main one is that Dave isnt claustrophobic! It seems the whole thing was based on one comment he made to Aled. Chris is one of Dave's best mates and even he had no idea about this claustrophobia thing. Aled admitted as much when he said something along the lines about learning his lesson that there is a difference between not liking something and being phobic about it.

Dave just wasn't bothered about the challenge today. I don't think it had a great deal to do with his personality. Tina didn't exactly make a song and dance about her challenge either, but it was still clear that she had at least SOME issue with it. Ok course, the fact the tunnel had clear panels in it and was only five meters long didnt exatly make it much of a test either. If Dave had done any over egging of the situation he would have looked like an absoloute fool. I think Dave got as much value out of it as he could.

It will be interesting to see what happens the rest of the week.

[BBQ]

Before today I had thought that Chris' challenge would probably have something to do with being put in a room with dogs or go in a helicopter and having it dropped several meters by the pilot. This morning I thought of something that would bring Chris close to soiling his pants - if he was put in the attack suit that Westwood wore in Afghanistan and have a dog turned loose on him. I doubt they would do that, but the image entered my mind.

Since Chris and Dom are going to do their challenges the same day, I really think it involves a helicopter as it would be too expensive to book it for two days. I doubt it is bungee jumping off the BT Tower. I'm not sure if Dave is going to be scared by tomorrow's activity.

[hdsport82]

Have to agree with most of this, the complete focus on the visual side of things is getting ridiculous, RADIO 1, the clues's in the name.

It works well for interviews and things in the evening, but when such a large percentage of you're audience are stuck in traffic or public transport and you do something so massively visual, it's not really fair.

The other big problem is Fearne Cotton, I don't intensely dislike her as much as I use to, but she's just a completely unnecessary extra voice who keeps talking over everyone.

I've still got my fingers crossed tomorrow will be brilliant though.

Yep I'm in agreement as well. Just because you have the option of 'visualisation' doesn't mean you have to use it at every opportunity no matter how weak the feature. During the marathon show I was more interested in just watching the 'normal parts' of the show than the 'made for tv' parts. Visual 'gags' (for want of a better term) can work on radio (with or without visualisation) e.g. 'throwing things at the studio clock' ,'fire at will' etc. but so far both of these 'challenges' have fallen flat. As for Fearne I'm not sure her involvement could be anymore pointless.

Aled mentioned the feedback has actually been better elsewhere than on here I wonder if it's been more favourable than what it replaced today (the musical taste game) or Disastermind (which is a more direct comparison)?

[Ilovematt]

Excuse me. A reality check ? I am well aware how tall those buildings are.

Had Tina been in a large unprotected cage, no harness and no man standing beside her it would have been scary.

I think you missed the point i was trying to make. Your insane! Are you trying to kill her? All it would take is a small breeze
to blow her off. I think it's fair to say there's no fly's on Mr Dave vitty after todays challenge. Today's challenge reminded me
of something Frankside bottom would of done.

If you read my comment properly, I did not say she should be.. it was an example. Most were saying how 'brave' she was. I was pointing out that not in this case. To be honest I think this is the most pathetic feature they have had on here. Neither so far have seemed frightened, if this was their fear. This makes some of the idea from the 'lucky 6 members' look fantastic. Don't even start me on the prizes.

[John_Dory]

Before today I had thought that Chris' challenge would probably have something to do with being put in a room with dogs or go in a helicopter and having it dropped several meters by the pilot. This morning I thought of something that would bring Chris close to soiling his pants - if he was put in the attack suit that Westwood wore in Afghanistan and have a dog turned loose on him. I doubt they would do that, but the image entered my mind.

Since Chris and Dom are going to do their challenges the same day, I really think it involves a helicopter as it would be too expensive to book it for two days. I doubt it is bungee jumping off the BT Tower. I'm not sure if Dave is going to be scared by tomorrow's activity.

I can see the headline now - 'Out Of Touch BBC Uses £xxx Of YOUR License Fee On Motormouth Moyles Helicopter Ride'. I think an obvious challenge for Chris would be to put him in some sort of awkward social situation.

[Ilovematt]

because it's clear even they know this feature sucks at the moment.

Don't pick a fight - the feedback I'm feeling from here is so different to the feedback on Twitter / Text / from Radio 1 staff.

I was disappointed with how challenge went with Dave. Dave not being THAT scared, the tunnel not looking as bad as it was to experience and the way Dave handles fear which is to grit his teeth and get on with it - and not screaming like the rest of us would. That's it - please don't read anymore into that.

None of the other reasons laid out here bother me. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but that doesn't make things fact. This forum doesn't like it when we try new things, especially when it takes the show out of it's comfort zone. Sticking with the same links day in day out isn't an option. Those genius moments are only genius when they're occasional - a mix of different styles on the show is important. Guests, features, visual projects, soap opera moments, team chat etc

You guys are influential - don't kill features before they've played out. Tina's was great - with tweaks needed - but that's all they were, tweaks. Dave's was Dave (see above) tomorrow Chris, Dom AND Dave will be attempting to face their fears. For me, v exciting and v scary! If a radio show can encourage that kind of feeling - that's huge, and something we should be proud of (I refer you to the formulaic radio of some of our competitors) - even if the 60 - 90second payoff didn't live up to it (which I think it still will btw) that's fine with me.

Defensive rant over.

Why does Dave have to do another challenge tomorrow just because he coped with his 'his way' ?
Aled, please to not class all on here, as the same as the 'long term members', saying we do not like change. I do like change but this really has not worked in my opinion. In fact I have zoned out mainly because of having Fearne on, this is a massive disappointment. I am fastest finger to turn off before her voice starts at 10 am. Do not understand the reason she is on this or the point of the prizes.

Loved 2 word tango today

[jsnsmith]

Just watched the video, it's so crap it's genius. Dave vitty trying to look Concerned
as he weighs up the tunnel. ( this is a doddle in his eyes ) Brilliant.

[Emmy]

I agree. I've only just seen the video too, and it's about ten times even less scary than I was imagining. They may as well just have made him crawl through one of these, it's longer than the 'Tunnel of Terror' for a start!

[itbe_Tyler]

I'm going to break the trend here and agree with Aled.

I agree that this mornings challenge wasn't the best and respect people for admitting that. But to base your judgement on a feature which is two days old is just stupid. Yesterdays challenge with Tina was the opposite end of the scale compared with today's in the fact that Tina was genuinely scared and there was tension in it. What people have done, just like the press do is focussed on the negative side of things. Yesterday was brilliant in my opinion, today's not so brilliant. But everyone is drawing on the negatives. When there has been one 'good' day and one 'bad' day I don't get how you can form an opinion on the feature.

On the note of visualisation; yes the station is called 'Radio 1' but in the world of today you can't expect there to not be heavy visualisation content. The balance of the visualisation on the show this week for this feature compared to the other shows with no visualisation is huge. More shows will be solely radio based then visually based.

Rant over.

[mcmahonman]

Yeah I'm in the negative camp for this. It really hasn't worked. It's all so visual for a time where people aren't fully up yet. Also it doesn't help when the tasks are quite frankly rubbish. There needs to be more danger for how big you have tried to make it.

Sorry Aled.

EDIT: Just seen the video for today. Oh Jesus. The video doesn't help at all. You make a big deal of the reaction for who gets picked and that is missing on the video and that tunnel was really rubbish. I think this may go down as the worse thing the show has ever done.

[bwfcol]

You're all being very very harsh. Yes, today's challenge didn't quite work but Tina's stuff was great. I don't like Fearne but I'll cope with that.

If you're scared of heights then you will be scared and the harness may make it slightly less dangerous but health and safety is there, you can't get away from it.

As for the prizes, it's just some fun, it's not like they are giving away £1 million to everyone.

It's a great idea but it was unfortunate that Dave's fear didn't display today. As for the cameras they are here to stay, you all loved the marathon red button stuff. Move on.

[SAV1OUR]

I was hoping Dave would be in a room full of pigeons cos he hates them, he really hates them.

There would be 'Coo-Cam', and the mic would pick up every sound of those wretched birds and more importantly Dave from Bedford would be too busy laughing to slag him off for....a week.

[Candyman]

I dont mind change if it works. This did'nt work ALed, fact.

On paper yes it looks really good, the promos made me look foward to this great competion. But sorry this is radio, maybe a few thousand can watch, Im near a PC at work but its restricted so I cant watch! and what about the millions of listeners on the way to work or school, listening to this did'nt make it very entertaining. Maybe if it was on the old afternoon show after 5pm fine I think it might work more chance of viewers. As for Fearne well a plenty of people have said how I feel about her, so theres not much more to say really on that

Look Disastermind was the perfect template and the prize was perfect want this to return hopefully. Fine if tomorrow works with 3 team members, but too little too late, but overall a hardworking fail.

[dageshi]

Now if you wanted truly, truly evil what they should have done is resurrect the "Green Day" competition. Have an awesome prize but the person who wins it is the person who says "day" (or some other common word)the least during the show. That would be utterly hilarious with everyone trying to get the other to say the word + chris would probably want to play more music than he's ever done before.

[SAV1OUR]

This is brilliant, he genuinely is scared of dogs.

[DarroM]

You're all being very very harsh. Yes, today's challenge didn't quite work but Tina's stuff was great. I don't like Fearne but I'll cope with that.

If you're scared of heights then you will be scared and the harness may make it slightly less dangerous but health and safety is there, you can't get away from it.

As for the prizes, it's just some fun, it's not like they are giving away £1 million to everyone.

It's a great idea but it was unfortunate that Dave's fear didn't display today. As for the cameras they are here to stay, you all loved the marathon red button stuff. Move on.

We did love the marathon stuff and one of the reasons was that we didn't know what will happen next. I am not totally against the feature like some people are but just that it's mainly for the people who can watch it on a computer at the time of broadcast.

Chris's reactions etc more than makes up for yesterday though and he is scared out of his wits it seems. This one is more radio-friendly than the previous two.

[Wykey]

My cat was called Zico

[Candyman]

This is better and more radio friendly.

If I was Chris I would say no, what a piss poor prize, if he would of gone to hollywood, meet JJ and been on set on his next film which might be the Star Trek sequal, that would of been worth it. But for a screening of a film out in 2 weeks or so that rubbish!!!

[yummytummy]

he looks sooo scared, Come on Chris you can do it

[bmstinton93]

I bloody wouldn't do this one.