[Yudster]

Word.

[Nicola_Red]

Absolute 90s has just played the unedited version of Everything About You by Ugly Kid Joe, lyrics: "well I don't really care about your sister, f!@* the little b1tch cos I already kissed her, one thing that I did to your old lady, put her on the bed and she didn't say maybe"

[Indie_fan]

Would it make much difference anyway? As they probably hear that word said by their friends everyday at school.

[SAV1OUR]

I hope no-one showed their kids this film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhB6I_fKhGY

[Wykey]

As for the word crap, it is interesting how it's worked its way down from being quite a controversial swear word to barely qualifying as swearing at all.

Like berk or damn... I remember being warned of the dire consequences if I so much as said 'bloody' of 'flippin eck'. Crap would have got me a wooden spoon across the knuckles!

I've always thought it a bit strange why some people would be offended by shit, but not by crap.... and various other comparable 'combinations' are offensive just because they're slang terms, whereas the 'correct' term isn't.

Anyway, I reckon if it's in the OED it should be available for selection.

[swaddon1903]

Apparently, the word 'naughty' used to be considered a swear word back in Victorian times.

[MK Chris]

The word 'berk' is vastly underused, perhaps unsurprisingly when you consider its origins. It's a way of swearing on the telly pre-watershed though I guess.

[Ilovematt]

Even now when I'm 27, I think the worst word I've ever heard my mum use is 'crap' - unless she was quoting something (and that was only once, where it was required). But I think that's just the way she is, she just doesn't swear - my dad on the other hand, has a mouth like a sewer, but I don't swear in front of either of them still - it just feels a bit disrespectful.

I never swore in front of my mum and dad, who have both gone now Like you say it's disrespectful.

[Wykey]

The word 'berk' is vastly underused, perhaps unsurprisingly when you consider its origins. It's a way of swearing on the telly pre-watershed though I guess.

I reckon if you were involved in a television quiz show that polled 100 members of the general public, and asked them for offensive words, Berk would be a statistical anomaly.

Interestingly (I think), when they were writing Porridge, Ronnie Barker replaced Berk with Nerk so as not to cause offence(!)

Bless him

[Wykey]

Even now when I'm 27, I think the worst word I've ever heard my mum use is 'crap' - unless she was quoting something (and that was only once, where it was required). But I think that's just the way she is, she just doesn't swear - my dad on the other hand, has a mouth like a sewer, but I don't swear in front of either of them still - it just feels a bit disrespectful.

I never swore in front of my mum and dad, who have both gone now Like you say it's disrespectful.

I'd agree it's disrespectful if it's abusive, unnecessary or someone's obviously uncomfortable with it. But there are times when some of us forget for a split second that our mum's on speakerphone and shout something they instantly regret at someone who's about to crash into them and then compound it by expressing their regret in colourful language.

[novalinnhe]

My son thinks he's having really nice eggs, he also thought the socks were on fire. Kids hear what they want to hear and if they have no knowledge of their meanings it ain't going to harm them. If they do know of their meanings, they'll just snigger.

Mmm, I have to disagree with that one. Remember when Sara Cox texted Chris saying: "Great, my son just asked me what 'nice sex' was. Thanks Bruno Mars"? I think I'd prefer to have the words censored and introduce it to them myself, properly, then a) feeling rushed into telling them or b) needing to make something up and running the risk of having them trying to discuss said word with everyone they know for more info.

If the censoring was consistent, at least children wouldn't be picking up the word without its context. Dunno, just my two pennies!

[Yudster]

Surely if you feel that strongly then the most realistic way to tackle it is to shield your kids from the sources? I always remember watching Buzzcocks the time Lily Allen and Jameela were both on and Jameela was having a go about Lily Allen refusing to make a censored version of her album for Jameela's little girl. Lily Allen just pointed out that she didn't write her album for kids, so if parents have a problem with the content they should bear that in mind.

I think it was Jameela anyway.

[dimtimjim]

Jameela

Bless you.

*passes tissues*

[a-moron]

My son thinks he's having really nice eggs, he also thought the socks were on fire. Kids hear what they want to hear and if they have no knowledge of their meanings it ain't going to harm them. If they do know of their meanings, they'll just snigger.

Mmm, I have to disagree with that one. Remember when Sara Cox texted Chris saying: "Great, my son just asked me what 'nice sex' was. Thanks Bruno Mars"? I think I'd prefer to have the words censored and introduce it to them myself, properly, then a) feeling rushed into telling them or b) needing to make something up and running the risk of having them trying to discuss said word with everyone they know for more info.

If the censoring was consistent, at least children wouldn't be picking up the word without its context. Dunno, just my two pennies!

C'mon Nova, think about this, it is impossible to censor consistently. You can't send your kids off to school with ear-plugs in, only to be removed once they reach the classroom and promptly re-inserted come interval and lunch time so as not subject them to words to which they are not accustomed to, just so as not question you on their context.

Because, my word, the language used on any playground or park is far worse than any you would hear on the radio.

Also, I honestly think Sara was making a wee joke on it, maybe. Just my two penny's

[bmstinton93]

Surely if you feel that strongly then the most realistic way to tackle it is to shield your kids from the sources? I always remember watching Buzzcocks the time Lily Allen and Jameela were both on and Jameela was having a go about Lily Allen refusing to make a censored version of her album for Jameela's little girl. Lily Allen just pointed out that she didn't write her album for kids, so if parents have a problem with the content they should bear that in mind.

I think it was Jameela anyway.

Presumably you mean Jamelia?

[a-moron]

Now now Ben, if my Gran had called Jamelia - Jameela or Lady Gaga - Lady Gogo I wouldn't pick them up on it, that's just mean. Shame on you.

[Wykey]

My son thinks he's having really nice eggs, he also thought the socks were on fire. Kids hear what they want to hear and if they have no knowledge of their meanings it ain't going to harm them. If they do know of their meanings, they'll just snigger.

Mmm, I have to disagree with that one. Remember when Sara Cox texted Chris saying: "Great, my son just asked me what 'nice sex' was. Thanks Bruno Mars"? I think I'd prefer to have the words censored and introduce it to them myself, properly, then a) feeling rushed into telling them or b) needing to make something up and running the risk of having them trying to discuss said word with everyone they know for more info.

If the censoring was consistent, at least children wouldn't be picking up the word without its context. Dunno, just my two pennies!

Censorship leads to ignorance, ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to the darkside.

Don't play it fine, if that's the moral 'guide', but don't censor it. Or you'll end up with kids wondering what a muddy-funster is.

And on a broader point, Yudster's right - if you don't want them to hear, or you're not prepared to explain whatever their questions are, then a 'hip and happening', 'boundary pushing', 'motor mouthed', 'roly-poly' breakfast DJ's show is the wrong thing to let them listen to.

[bmstinton93]

But I thought Yuds was a cool granny...

[Yudster]

Apart from not being a granny. Baby Yudster is my seven year old SON, not grandson thank you.

I have no idea whether its cool or not, but whilst I keep Baby Yudster away from things which I know would distress him, I don't censor much else. If he sees or hears something I think needs explaining I will explain, also if he asks about something I haven't picked up on I will tell him. He doesn't use bad language, has pretty good manners, asks lots of questions and listens to the answers - so it seems to be working.

[bmstinton93]

Get Baby Yudster on here...

[Yudster]

Never going to happen - he has a life!

[DevilsDuck]

yeah....but...oh...shut up yuds

[bmstinton93]

Never going to happen - he has a life!

That's what you think!

[Ilovematt]

Even now when I'm 27, I think the worst word I've ever heard my mum use is 'crap' - unless she was quoting something (and that was only once, where it was required). But I think that's just the way she is, she just doesn't swear - my dad on the other hand, has a mouth like a sewer, but I don't swear in front of either of them still - it just feels a bit disrespectful.

I never swore in front of my mum and dad, who have both gone now Like you say it's disrespectful.

I'd agree it's disrespectful if it's abusive, unnecessary or someone's obviously uncomfortable with it. But there are times when some of us forget for a split second that our mum's on speakerphone and shout something they instantly regret at someone who's about to crash into them and then compound it by expressing their regret in colourful language.

[a-moron]

Apart from not being a granny. Baby Yudster is my seven year old SON, not grandson thank you.

I was only joking Yuds, I know you're not a granny. You just act like one

Never going to happen - he has a life!

That's what you think!

That's poor from you Mr Stinton, I expected better.