[DevilsDuck]

You are kidding me!

Get a life

[the sniper]

To be fair to the feature, it got better as it went on, and the mix up between where the mugs actually were was funny, but this presumably wasn't planned and as such it was lucky that it happened. I still maintain that the initial 'here comes the next clue...' stage was completely pants radio though. Maybe in future Aled there should be less fuss around this stage on the radio, as I seem to remember that you yourself told Chris that you imagined one part of the feature would be more of a 'background thing'? Or maybe I imagined that.

Appreciate your response anyway Aled.

[hdsport82]

Yeah, it seems like the internet "doesn't count" -- there's a lot of "Google this", "Google that". If I was running Microsoft's Bing (not that anyone uses it), I'd be thinking "What happened to 'other search engines are available'?"

In that example I'd assume they'd say that google is now accepted as a verb (it's in the dictionary) just as they'd get away with saying hoover. I don't think they can use the same answer for Twitter/Facebook.

I wonder if there are a few BBC hoops they have to jump through e.g. having to put the clues on the blog as well in this case.

Whatever the rules are Twitter (because the team all use it) still gets a hell of a lot of plugs on the show (and indeed across the BBC).

[jamiec21]

It would have been funnier if they'd have just directed the online users to clues - and then never mentioned it on air again, maybe with a "oh BLEEP, we forgot the quiz!" gag at the end of the show. As it was, the only comedy came from the fact that someone * up the clues. Of course, if this was an intentional gag, then I apologise unreservedly.

[DevilsDuck]

THEY ARE NOT PLUGGING TWITTER!!!

They use twitter and facebook to provide more too the listener. Joining in the pub quiz, showing pictures etc etc

Its the same as people sending in letters in the 80s....or was that plugging royal mail?

[bmstinton93]

[neilt0]

Other postal services are not available.

[northernsteve]

I didn't like the treasure hunt at all for precisely that reason, it was a television feature and I was listening to the radio.

Treasure Hunt does work on the radio - three BBC local stations do a low budget radio version of it. Radio Norfolk and Three Counties both call their versions Treasure Quest, Radio Manchester calls its version Manhunt. No helicopter, just the radio car and a mobile phone.

[the sniper]

I didn't like the treasure hunt at all for precisely that reason, it was a television feature and I was listening to the radio.

Treasure Hunt does work on the radio - three BBC local stations do a low budget radio version of it. Radio Norfolk and Three Counties both call their versions Treasure Quest, Radio Manchester calls its version Manhunt. No helicopter, just the radio car and a mobile phone.

You're mixing up two things here. The feature on Friday wasn't done to the format of Treasure Hunt the TV show, it was just referred to as a 'treasure hunt' on the show. I presume this 'Treasure Quest' and 'Manhunt' are done to a format similar to that of the TV show, seeing as they're using radio cars and mobile phones?

[northernsteve]

The feature on the show on Friday was fairly similar in that there were three cryptic-ish clues to a location. But I was replying to Yudster's suggestion that it was a TV feature (which I don't think it actually was?) and pointing out that the format does work on radio.

[Ajescent]

It was hilarious, I loved it. I think people take the show a bit too seriously sometimes, which is contradictory to the whole point of the show me thinks.

[ededwards]

I'm afraid there will be more online stuff - and things hidden in our podcast to enhance the full Chris Moyles Show 360, rather than it just being the radio.

The online stuff is great and is something the show does well as long as it doesn't distract the radio audience too much or make those unable to access the online content at the time feel left out of the show.

An example of this is when there is live streaming (which I think is great btw) and it's announced that something is going to happen on the webcam that you have to get to a computer and see, which is usually followed by some audio that anyone trapped in their cars listening quickly gets bored of.
This is even more annoying when it doesn't even get uploaded to the website to watch again later.

An interesting debate is going on in the radio industry at the moment about the pros and cons that social networking has and the right an wrong ways to use it. As discussed in the latest RadioTalk podcast here: http://www.radioacademy.org/listen/podcasts/ (skip to 23:20 on the 20th May 2011 podcast)

Aled is criticised for the obsession presenters have with twitter follower numbers (25:10) however on the whole the Chris Moyles Show usually gets the balance right.

[Johnny 1989]

Nope the worst feature has to be "Who Wants To Be A Horse Or Mare" from the old afternoon show, don't get me wrong it's funny every time I hear it but it's the most ridiculous fill in feature ever (at least "Play Your Footie Leagues Right" could have been a good game if they gave it a run) you don't have to be a genius to work out who came up with both of those

[hdsport82]

THEY ARE NOT PLUGGING TWITTER!!!

They use twitter and facebook to provide more too the listener. Joining in the pub quiz, showing pictures etc etc

Its the same as people sending in letters in the 80s....or was that plugging royal mail?

Royal Mail was and (at the moment) still is a nationalised company. The Postal Services Bill is changing that though isn't it?

They are indirectly plugging these private commercial organisations as I said initially I've no problem with it but am interested in what (if any) rules there are surrounding it. Was the putting clues on the blog a compliance thing etc?

[Yudster]

The feature on the show on Friday was fairly similar in that there were three cryptic-ish clues to a location. But I was replying to Yudster's suggestion that it was a TV feature (which I don't think it actually was?) and pointing out that the format does work on radio.

The way it was done only worked on the radio if you also had access to a computer or similar visual device, so I'm not at all sure you are right. However my main gripe was not the format - if I was one of the herd glued to a smartphone and not glued to my office I expect I would have enjoyed it as much as anyone. It was more a sulk than a complaint.

[Nicola_Red]

King of Tickets anyone...?

[MK Chris]

King of Tickets was BRILLIANT.

[Nicola_Red]

The online stuff is great and is something the show does well as long as it doesn't distract the radio audience too much or make those unable to access the online content at the time feel left out of the show.

An example of this is when there is live streaming (which I think is great btw) and it's announced that something is going to happen on the webcam that you have to get to a computer and see, which is usually followed by some audio that anyone trapped in their cars listening quickly gets bored of. This is even more annoying when it doesn't even get uploaded to the website to watch again later.

This is exactly how I feel about it. I'm just too busy in the mornings to stop and look at my phone or a PC. I do often wonder how many other people must be in the same situation - surely most people who work?

[bmstinton93]

Mysterious Dog anyone?

[Nicola_Red]

Has anyone read the new Features List post in the Vault? I think there are a fair few classic features missing from that list...

[bwfcol]

King of Tickets was rubbish but it was funny because of that.

Secret Student, Cheggers Pop Quiz, Beep Beep Busters, Birthday Corner etc were all just rubbish and/or boring

[jamiec21]

At least all these features revolved entirely around the radio show. How many people are actively online or on their Twitter/Facebook during the hours of the radio show, and especially in peak-time? I'd guess a very, very small fraction of the many millions who tune in. The trouble with social media is that the numbers just aren't there, and on breakfast shows especially - when the majority of the audience are preparing to go to whereever they go. Even with texts they only get a few thousand at a time on average, and there are always jokes when they had the online-only video streaming about how few people were tuned in. This isn't me saying they shouldn't do anything for the website or social media or television, just that they should keep it very limited and not to totally alienate the core radio audience. Seems to me that social media would suit the on-demand audience more than doing live, time-restricted links centred round it. Live comments and reactions on text/Twitter is fine, but maybe some seperate content recorded after the radio show and promoted online would be a better way of utilising the medium.

[Travis Bickle]

King of Tickets was rubbish but it was funny because of that.

Secret Student, Cheggers Pop Quiz, Beep Beep Busters, Birthday Corner etc were all just rubbish and/or boring

Yeah. I do think the Secret Student feature was a good idea though. It turned out not to work, but the principle of it was excellent. They ended up doing a similar thing, although not secret, with Angelo and his weight loss. I know a lot of people didnt like it, but I thought it was great and enjoyed the weekly chats and keeping up with his progress.

I cant remember the name of the feature but the "who knows Dom" (was that the name of it?) was pretty pointless as well. And I wasnt a fan of the Duck Register. Reading strangers names out to music didnt make for good radio in my opinion.

Regarding the mug treasure hunt I enjoyed it and thought it was funny. Granted, that may have been because I was on twitter at the time, but I thought it was good!

[bmstinton93]

At least all these features revolved entirely around the radio show. How many people are actively online or on their Twitter/Facebook during the hours of the radio show, and especially in peak-time? I'd guess a very, very small fraction of the many millions who tune in. The trouble with social media is that the numbers just aren't there, and on breakfast shows especially - when the majority of the audience are preparing to go to whereever they go. Even with texts they only get a few thousand at a time on average, and there are always jokes when they had the online-only video streaming about how few people were tuned in. This isn't me saying they shouldn't do anything for the website or social media or television, just that they should keep it very limited and not to totally alienate the core radio audience. Seems to me that social media would suit the on-demand audience more than doing live, time-restricted links centred round it. Live comments and reactions on text/Twitter is fine, but maybe some seperate content recorded after the radio show and promoted online would be a better way of utilising the medium.

You have to remember though that the majority of people use Twitter and Facebook on their mobiles anyway now so are constantly accessible to it. And they have proven just how many listeners on Twitter during the show when they got #banana and #Robbiesavagecantsing trending

[jamiec21]

You have to remember though that the majority of people use Twitter and Facebook on their mobiles anyway now so are constantly accessible to it. And they have proven just how many listeners on Twitter during the show when they got #banana and #Robbiesavagecantsing trending

It's not a case of how many people have apps on their phones, it's a case of how many people can be bothered to join in. Texting is still the king, and they only get a few thousand text messages each time they run a text feature. And I don't imagine it takes many people to get a subject trending on Twitter at 8 in the morning. If we say the average audience is hovering around 10 million (that's including the young listeners not included in the RAJAR figures), then it's still an incredibly small amount of the audience who are actually contacting the show. If 10,000 people text in for a text feature, that's only 0.1% of the audience. I'd be amazed if the Facebook and Twitter figures combined were near 10,000. Sorry, I just don't see active audience participation in the show as the big thing they, and seemingly the whole broadcast industry, want it to be.