[dimtimjim]

Apologies in advance if this upsets anyone, it certainly made me feel sick to the bottom of my stomach..... The outcome is all ok, just makes you think.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8310051.stm

[chrysostom]

oh my word, i've not got sound on - how did the baby survive?

[MK Chris]

That's quite astonishing - with sound on doesn't make it any clearer how the baby survived to be honest.

[dimtimjim]

Only a bruise to the forehead apparently.....

Truly shocking footage.

[chrysostom]

i bet the father was steaming when he saw the footage

[foot-loose]

Like the train?

[pjordan2000]

Knowing that the baby is ok, I bet that is a freight off her mind.

[chrysostom]

i don't think the baby will remember anything, he was a-sleeper

[pjordan2000]

Hopefully they'll all get their life back on track after this.

[foot-loose]

He might be feeling a bit run down for the next few days though.

[Zoot]

See, after all this ordeal at least there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

[AndyJ]

I wonder if his mum lost her train of thought for a short while there...

[Console]

Apologies in advance if this upsets anyone, it certainly made me feel sick to the bottom of my stomach..... The outcome is all ok, just makes you think.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8310051.stm

It may just be me, but I don't think that anyone there was particularly lucky.

[pjordan2000]

In a fatal sense, the baby could be considered lucky for not being killed.

[chrysostom]

and the mother for her lapse of concentration not leading to her child's death.

[nade]

Apologies in advance if this upsets anyone, it certainly made me feel sick to the bottom of my stomach..... The outcome is all ok, just makes you think.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8310051.stm

It may just be me, but I don't think that anyone there was particularly lucky.

I quite agree, I can't imagine what the train driver must have been thinking seeing it happen right infront and not being able to stop in time.

And yes, before anyone else says it, i'm certain the mother must have felt much worse at the time than the train driver.

[Yudster]

Apologies in advance if this upsets anyone, it certainly made me feel sick to the bottom of my stomach..... The outcome is all ok, just makes you think.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8310051.stm

It may just be me, but I don't think that anyone there was particularly lucky.

Why would you think that it was anything other than luck? Unless you're saying that someone tried and failed to kill a baby, in which case i suppose that person could be said to have had no luck. I have to say I saw the footage earlier and haven't looked at it again here (didn't like it.....), and my second thought (the first one being how the hell did he survive that?) was "how on earth did the pushchair roll away like that?" Ther'es surely no way a station platform would be sloping dangerously towards the track - so was it pushed? It certainly went from stationery to very fast in an extremely short space of time.

[Console]

Ignoring the philosophical debate of whether luck actually exists, her baby was nearly killed and some people are classing that as lucky, as in having good fortune - it just seems like bad fortune if anything - lucky would have been the pushchair not rolling under a train.

[AndyJ]

"how on earth did the pushchair roll away like that?" Ther'es surely no way a station platform would be sloping dangerously towards the track - so was it pushed? It certainly went from stationery to very fast in an extremely short space of time.

Maybe it was a bit windy there and the wind moved it? When I am standing at Three Bridges station in the morning, it can be a bit of a wind tunnel, even if it isn't a particularly windy day.

[Yudster]

Ignoring the philosophical debate of whether luck actually exists, her baby was nearly killed and some people are classing that as lucky, as in having good fortune - it just seems like bad fortune if anything - lucky would have been the pushchair not rolling under a train.

It would, but that didn't happen - seeing as the pushchair DID roll under the train, do you not think the outcome of what DID happen could be classified as "lucky" (given the accepted ignoring of the aforementioned philosophical debate)?

And I hope you're right AndyJ, I would hate to think the whole thing was anything other than a horrible accident (ignoring the philosophical debate about whether the concept of accidents is valid or not).

[Console]

It would, but that didn't happen - seeing as the pushchair DID roll under the train, do you not think the outcome of what DID happen could be classified as "lucky"

I'm not sure - it's a little hard to quantify. Given everything that could have happened, it wasn't the worst possible outcome, but it was also far from the best outcome. Sure, if you start counting from the point when the pushchair is under the train, the baby was lucky to survive, but given the 'bad luck' it took to get the pushchair onto the track in the first place, I'm not sure I would call it 'lucky' overall.

[Yudster]

True enough. On the whole though, if I was that mother, I think I'd be overall happier than upset, although the happiness wouldn't be unalloyed.

[Zoot]

Ignoring the philosophical debate of whether luck actually exists, her baby was nearly killed and some people are classing that as lucky, as in having good fortune - it just seems like bad fortune if anything - lucky would have been the pushchair not rolling under a train.

I know! Fancy saying it as 'Lucky'!


http://chrismoyles.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=181062#p181062

[Console]

My views have changed over time - interesting that you had to go back four years, though.

[Zoot]

My views have changed over time - interesting that you had to go back four years, though.

I know, I thought I'd have to dig a LOT deeper!