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By Sunny So Cal
#388369
Yudster wrote:Hardly unique, Finton is an unusual name but fairly traditional, and there are two Xanthe's in Baby Yudster's school! Poor loves.


I've not come across any but I'm no longer volunteering in the elementary school. That was usually where I'd hear the unusual names.
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By Ed Pummelon
#388375
TIAL wrote:
Ed Pummelon wrote:That makes no sense


Ed Pummelon wrote:We know what most text speak means


Most people know "lol" means "laugh out loud", but "its Chris' turn soon laugh out louds" [sic] makes no sense.
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By Yudster
#388377
Sunny So Cal wrote:
Yudster wrote:Hardly unique, Finton is an unusual name but fairly traditional, and there are two Xanthe's in Baby Yudster's school! Poor loves.


I've not come across any but I'm no longer volunteering in the elementary school. That was usually where I'd hear the unusual names.

You're not kidding - sometimes I think there's some kind of competition going on to choose the most ridiculous name for your child. And then two years later your unusual and carefully chosen (ridiculous) name has been taken up by everyone else and makes your child sound like trailer trash! Oh, I meant to say - one of the worst things about the rising popularity of "Xanthe" is people's apparent inability to say it properly. One of the Xanthes I know has a brother called Matthew (nice name) - its painful hearing their parents refer to them as "Maffew an Zanfy".
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By TIAL
#388378
Ed Pummelon wrote:
TIAL wrote:
Ed Pummelon wrote:That makes no sense


Ed Pummelon wrote:We know what most text speak means


Most people know "lol" means "laugh out loud", but "its Chris' turn soon laugh out louds" [sic] makes no sense.


Oh I see. Fair enough!
#388390
Ed Pummelon wrote:Just for my own edification, what do the symbols ^_^ and >.< mean?


Ed! can you see them yet? |'.'| <-- is that a dog?

Anyway, congratulations on the new bundle of joy :D
#388393
Ed Pummelon wrote:I think I'm going to need more brandy before I can make those faces out.


Fair point. I'll stop. But I do think it's acceptable for people to add - occasionally - a DIY smiley if it adds something to the text topic. It's better than text speak.
#388396
Better to make a three to five character 'picture' than abbreviated words or slang because it's recognisable, can be quite clever and can be funny if it is in context with the sentence like saying something is 'cute' or 'evil'.
Okay I'll leave it now :(
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By Yudster
#388401
My_name_is_Nobody wrote:.....it's recognisable

Not often.
My_name_is_Nobody wrote:can be quite clever

No it can't.
My_name_is_Nobody wrote:and can be funny

No, not that either.
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By Johnny 1989
#388419
TIAL wrote:It's all subjective I suppose.


Yeah, I'll be honest I've never seen such "flaming" on a forum for a brief usage of "text speak". Fair enough if someone is writing whole sentences using text speak but the odd "lol", "BTW", "IIRC" or "AFAIK" isn't that much of a problem if the rest of the paragraph is in normal speak?

For those of you who have "trouble" translating the short hand:

BTW = By the way
IIRC = If I recall correctly
AFAIK = As far as I know
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By Yudster
#388420
Nobody has trouble with reading it you fool. But you are wrong in assuming that the occasional use by anyone is jumped on. Its only a problem when a poster does it all the time. And then, as much as anything esle, its a problem not because individuals on the site don't like it, but because it is specifically forbidden in the rules which apply to THIS forum. And those rules are the work of the forum owner and admnistrator, not me, not Ed, not any of us.
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By TIAL
#388421
To be fair, people do respond to it as if they don't understand it. I've never been quite sure if they are just saying it for effect or not.

Other than that, there's not much point in debating it, the rules are the rules ;)
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By Johnny 1989
#388423
Yudster wrote:Nobody has trouble with reading it you fool. But you are wrong in assuming that the occasional use by anyone is jumped on. Its only a problem when a poster does it all the time. And then, as much as anything esle, its a problem not because individuals on the site don't like it, but because it is specifically forbidden in the rules which apply to THIS forum. And those rules are the work of the forum owner and admnistrator, not me, not Ed, not any of us.


Alright calm down ;) I know what the rules are but... Oh well what does it matter I'm apparently a fool so I'll shut up now!
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By Yudster
#388424
I'm perfectly calm, why would you assume otherwise? And I'm sure you're not a fool, sorry.
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By Johnny 1989
#388428
Yudster wrote:I'm perfectly calm, why would you assume otherwise? And I'm sure you're not a fool, sorry.


No thats ok I'm not offended really :D, I forget when reading something that someone types that one can take the way it's written wrongly.

I'll be honest the short hand text speak is balls, fine on a text for sure due to limited characters (156 characters, although most phones split a long text into multi texts now anyway) but there are some forums where it is a bloody chore.
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By Ed Pummelon
#388441
TIAL wrote:To be fair, people do respond to it as if they don't understand it. I've never been quite sure if they are just saying it for effect or not.


I don't know whether that was aimed at me or not, but whether it was or it wasn't my question earlier on demonstrates this point perfectly: I understand text speak, although I don't like it, and I like it even less when it's inserted into a sentence in a way that makes no sense. That was the comment I picked up on earlier.

However the use of punctuation marks to create symbols is something I genuinely don't understand. I don't know whether it's a part of text speak I just haven't come across or if it's something else completely. I don't even know if it's covered in the rules or not. I asked what it meant because I didn't know, and I was interested, not because I was "saying it for effect".

Widening this out a bit, all you guys who are complaining about excessive reactions to text speak need to remember something - there are people out there who genuinely hate being forced to read it, I know because I'm one of them. The written word is one of the most powerful tools we have to communicate, and English is one of the most expressive and extensive languages in which to do it. Text speak is a cheap and nasty alternative.

So you have no idea how refreshing it is (for me at least) to find one message board where not only do other people seem to share this dislike of the habit, but it is even banned in the rules. So when cretins start complaining about being picked up on it, and moan about how it's allowed somewhere else - well, yes it is. So if you can't see an alternative, disappear and do it over there.

But to all those asking why text speak is so frowned upon, I'd turn it around. In a forum where it is explicitly not allowed, why is real English so bad? What's wrong with using real words? There's a time and place for text speak, and if this isn't it, is the alternative really too horrendous to contemplate?