[S4B]

Ahh well if the Judge jules lot agree with you then that's ok.

Sweets, I am possibly one of the most pedantic members of this forum. I do think you should agree with and abide by the rules of this forum. We like correct English, no text speak and good debate. When you visit somewhere new you try and fit in don't you? That's all we're asking for.

[Yudster]

what do u think a couple of pedantic geeks are going to put me off??? i really dont think so!

You said they did though. You said you couldnt be bothered. You said you had better things to do. You clearly weren't being totally honest there. Come on, you can admit it - you have no life at all, the internet is where all your friends are, and you haven't needed to wear outdoors shoes since you last had to go and sign on, have you? Its ok, we understand.

[Ian_k]

what do u think a couple of pedantic geeks are going to put me off??? i really dont think so!

You said they did though. You said you couldnt be bothered. You said you had better things to do. You clearly weren't being totally honest there. Come on, you can admit it - you have no life at all, the internet is where all your friends are, and you haven't needed to wear outdoors shoes since you last had to go and sign on, have you? Its ok, we understand.

mate i may well of earned more in last year than you did, so id take that comment back......

[S4B]

I may well HAVE not OF! I'm guessing you don't work as an English Teacher?

[Ian_k]

nah.......an it technican and dj.......nicely paid thanx

[S4B]

Doesn't matter how much you get paid, most of us on here have good jobs.

[Yudster]

We've had all sorts of people on here pretending to be all sorts of other people. That will always be part of the internet.

[Ian_k]

so in actual fact your saying your a dole dosser there then, but pretending to have a good job cos its the net yourself???

[S4B]

so in actual fact your saying your a dole dosser there then, but pretending to have a good job cos its the net yourself???

What? I don't understand that. However if you are accusing Yuds of being on the dole you'd be wrong.

[Ian_k]

well in essence he's saying i could be lying cos its the net, what makes me believe him in that case??

[S4B]

*Gives up*

[Yudster]

so in actual fact your saying your a dole dosser there then, but pretending to have a good job cos its the net yourself???

Where have I actually claimed that I have any kind of job, let alone a good one? I'm actually lucky enough to be in a position where I don't currently need a job, which might well qualify me for the title of "dosser" I suppose.

"She", by the way.

[Ed Pummelon]

*Gives up*

I think S4B's got the right approach here, there's no point trying to debate a point with someone who uses their salary and the judge jules forum to justify their incompetence in English. At least I think that's what just happened, I have to admit I didn't understand all of it on first glance, and experience has shown that it won't be worth the effort to go back and work it out.

Time for a pint.

EDIT: Just for kicks I decided to see if there really was a judgejules.net. Turns out there is, complete with forum, and the delightful Mr. K has been posting on there for around 6 hours about just how not bothered he really is. Including how he'd like to see one of us "in person lol" , presumably me from the context, but won't be loosing [sic] sleep over it.

He's also posted some links for his fellow forum members to follow back here, so there may be some new visitors here at some point. I guess it depends whether they're as "not bothered" as the lovely Ian.

[in4308]

So, JK & Joel.......

[Yudster]

I liked them on Early Breakfast, they were very good indeed and i was sorry to see them go. I agree with whoever it was who said that the BBC made a mistake in not trying harder to keep them.

[Ed Pummelon]

So, JK & Joel.......

Oh yeah, sorry about that. What Yuds said, basically.

[ThinkofaNumber]

Oh my goodness me, I cannot believe you think it's o.k to be nasty to someone simply because they do not have the spelling and grammar skills that you all think is necessary to have an opinion on a totally unrelated subject.
All he done was voice an opinion about the topic on this thread and you all then turned it into an argument.
Personally I like a well constructed post too, but if someone else couldn't care less, that's up to them. He has as much right to be here as anyone, and even if you work for the OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY is no lesser a person either.
In fact I read the replies through and they weren't hard to 'decipher' as someone said they couldn't be bothered to do. If you can't be bothered to decipher one of Ian K's replies then it is not he who is the 'lazy' or 'stupid' one

I don't think anyone here is lazy or stupid, it would be hard to know that from message board posts. But we all do find something difficult and for some people it's typing! So what?
As others find it hard to have a sense of humour.

[Ed Pummelon]

I promised jocky85 I'd be nice today and now this. Sweet Jesus.

Welcome to the forum ThinkofaNumber.

I need a lie down.

[MK Chris]

Oh my goodness me, I cannot believe you think it's o.k to be nasty to someone simply because they do not have the spelling and grammar skills that you all think is necessary to have an opinion on a totally unrelated subject.

I would stop short of saying it was nasty, more that it was pointing out that his posts are badly spelled and punctuated. But as Chris Harris says - he probably has dyslexia, they invariably do.

Personally I like a well constructed post too, but if someone else couldn't care less, that's up to them.

Well, yes and no. If text speak is banned in the rules of the forum, then they should refrain from using it. If they are perfectly competent at constructing a coherent sentence, free of spelling and grammatical errors, but choose not to do so then they are choosing to look stupid. This does not mean they necessarily are stupid, but if that's all we have to go on, then a considerable number of people on here are likely to make that assumption.

He has as much right to be here as anyone

Correct, unless he breaks the rules or is otherwise deemed worthy of being banned by the administrator or moderators.

even if you work for the OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY is no lesser a person either.

I don't see what this has to do with anything.

In fact I read the replies through and they weren't hard to 'decipher' as someone said they couldn't be bothered to do. If you can't be bothered to decipher one of Ian K's replies then it is not he who is the 'lazy' or 'stupid' one

When you are writing for an audience, surely the onus is on you to ensure people what you have to say? With that in mind, it would be to his benefit to make his posts easier to read. Even if it's not hard to do, if it comes across as thick, as it does, then it's less likely to be read. As I said, he may or may not be thick, but that's how it comes across.

I don't think anyone here is lazy or stupid

You obviously haven't been here very long.

[Ed Pummelon]

I have a feeling ThinkofaNumber is a Judge Jules fan.

[ThinkofaNumber]

I still think it wasn't very nice, my partner is dyslexic and when he replies to message boards he takes forever, spell check, asking me things, he can be sitting there all night doing three replies. I tend to just type as fast as I can and sometimes there are mistakes, usually with ie and ei words. Whatever though, it's just personality and that is something we are all different in, and that is the one good thing about any kind of socialising isn't it?
Fair enough about text speak, but actually i was using abbreviations on forums years before text messaging was widely available, it was just a way of using less time and effort to convey particular messages, and now and again I even say out loud 'OMFG!!' when i feel it's appropriate. But if that is part of the rules so be it, however being not that fussy about spelling and grammar errors isn't part of the rules, and it's not nice to take the Mickey out of someone for something they can't do very well.

[Yudster]

It has nothing to do with personality. If someone chooses to present themselves in a manner which makes them appear either stupid, lazy or pretentious, then they can hardly complain if people come to the conclusion that that's what they might be. As for dyslexia, as you should be well aware dyslexic people would, on the whole, never post a badly spelled or constructed comment because they are used to taking the kind of care you describe.

As to whether or not it is "very nice" - well no, it probably isn't, but tough. If having a few pedants on a messageboard have a go at him is the worst thing that happens to him (or anyone else) this week, then I'd say its been a pretty good week. And as for personal comments, he made more of those than anyone else and I don't see any of his "victims" crying. He - and possibly you - need to get some perspective.

[MK Chris]

I still think it wasn't very nice, my partner is dyslexic and when he replies to message boards he takes forever, spell check, asking me things, he can be sitting there all night doing three replies.

That is fundamentally different. That is genuine dyslexia and he, like most dyslexic people, appears to be the sort of person who tries very hard to overcome it using whatever means possible. The flipside is lazy and (potentially) thick people who attempt to use dyslexia as an excuse. They give a bad name to genuine dyslexic people, but probably (though I could be wrong here) outnumber them considerably. That said, 'Ian_K' never actually used dyslexia as an excuse, just a lot of people do.

I tend to just type as fast as I can and sometimes there are mistakes, usually with ie and ei words.

That, also, is different. The odd typo is totally acceptable and everybody does it.. laziness is totally different to that.

now and again I even say out loud 'OMFG!!' when i feel it's appropriate.

I was beginning to think I quite like you until then.........!

[Ed Pummelon]

Mmmmph....

[The Stig]

So, umm JK and Joel.

I really liked them and enjoyed listening to them, I think they need a solid new radio home. They aren't as good on TV as Radio so would like to see them go back in to Radio. I found it an odd one I have to say, the axing of them. They were ready for a weekend slot at the very least, I'd rather listen to them than Edith, Jo or Fearne and Reggie any day.