[thekempo]

Who heard it?

Wow is all I can say.

[Ballbag]

Well you could say more really if you wanted to. Like what the hell are you on about.

[S4B]

seconded!

[thekempo]

Haha, this was more aimed at the people who had heard it, but ok.

Chappers was on the Jo Whiley show and they were talking about the amount of money they raised. Chappers said they were thankful to the people who had donated, but they made a lot more money last year because they could give out prizes. Then he went on this big long rant about how the faceless BBC executives won't let them give out prizes, 'n they're screwing over the kids in India who live in waste dumps. It was pretty powerful.

I think it happened about 11:30 or so.

[I_Love_You]

no but i was i had.....

[S4B]

no but i was i had.....

What?

[TIAL]

Heard the rant.

[I_Love_You]

Heard the rant.

yeah what you said!

[thekempo]

Jo Whiley kept saying "Chappers? Chappers?" trying to get him to shutup, but on he went haha.

[SAV1OUR]

Chappers has gone up in my estimation now.

[I_Love_You]

Chappers has gone up in my estimation now.

I've always thought chappers was cool, but he is a bit cooler now!
Even tho i didn't hear it hehe

[thekempo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/jowhiley/

Listen to the latest show and go to 01:20:48.

[I_Love_You]

alright will do
thanks

[S4B]

Isn't it a bit sad though that people were only giving money because they could get something out of it? It is supposed to be charity. I too now think Chappers has gone up in my estimation however the people not donating because they'll get nothing for their money have disappeared off the bottom of the scale!

[Console]

Isn't it a bit sad though that people were only giving money because they could get something out of it?

Of all of humanities faults, I don't think I'd class 'only giving money because they could get something out of it' to be near the top of the list - infact, I'm not sure I'd put it on the list at all. People work hard for the money they have and may not feel that whatever a charity is representing is worthy of their time and effort - a competition, or raffle, of some sort is just an incentive for the people that don't particularly care about the cause to give money they wouldn't normally have given. Come to think of it, isn't that what the National Lottery is?

[SAV1OUR]

Isn't it a bit sad though that people were only giving money because they could get something out of it?

People work hard for the money they have and may not feel that whatever a charity is representing is worthy of their time and effort

What strikes me about todays rant is that it comes on Budget day - when all and sundry are prattling on about prosperity and business and tax. Yet on Radio1, here is someone putting everything into perspective. Whilst we may feel hard done by, somehow Chappers reminding us that children scavenge through rubbish makes you question it all.

[S4B]

Isn't it a bit sad though that people were only giving money because they could get something out of it?

Of all of humanities faults, I don't think I'd class 'only giving money because they could get something out of it' to be near the top of the list - infact, I'm not sure I'd put it on the list at all. People work hard for the money they have and may not feel that whatever a charity is representing is worthy of their time and effort - a competition, or raffle, of some sort is just an incentive for the people that don't particularly care about the cause to give money they wouldn't normally have given. Come to think of it, isn't that what the National Lottery is?

Which is why I don't do the lottery. I do give regularly to a couple of charities but not so I can get anything out of it.

[Vivienne]

People work hard for the money they have and may not feel that whatever a charity is representing is worthy of their time and effort

Tosh! Yes, people work hard for their money, but if it was a member of your family struggling, you'd want help then, wouldn't you?

and chappers, that was blooming class! I will eternally see you in a completely different light! Chappers Geldof!

[MK Chris]

Yes, but it's not a member of your family is it? The point is that people may feel there are causes more worthy of donation and support them instead.. the prizes are an incentive to switch.

[Vivienne]

But it could be though in the future? ( a member of my family, or someone close) ... who knows? It's really not often that R1 become involved in stuff like this, and I think the Sport Relief stuff is genius personally .., as it's doing stuff not only in the UK, but around the World.

[Yudster]

I don't know about "worthy of the time and effort" That's a bit much maybe - but there are some charities whose stated aims are absolutely laudable, but whose solutions to the problems are questionable, and whilst I would like to help the problem, I don't believe giving money to some of these organisations is the best way to do it. There are at least three such groups that I know of who will be benefitting from Sport Relief - which is why I won't be giving to Sport Relief, because I want to be confident in the work of the charities I donate to. A donation to Sport Relief is not targetted enough.

Also, I, like many people these days, have an annual "charity budget" and donate via direct debit using Gift Aid to specific groups. When something like Sport Relief comes along it's not that I don't think it's "worthy of my time and effort", more that I have already spent my money!

[Vivienne]

It's not "targetted enough"... so, what are you saying, would you like someone to ring you up, and tell you exactly where the cash is going, yuds? Can you be sure, indeed, if any Charity gets the money going to the right places?

[Console]

People work hard for the money they have and may not feel that whatever a charity is representing is worthy of their time and effort

Tosh! Yes, people work hard for their money, but if it was a member of your family struggling, you'd want help then, wouldn't you?

Yes, but my family isn't a registered charity, is yours?

There is a natural instinct within humans to protect one's own family (it's an evolution thing that I can't be bothered to explain). Also, you can see the direct effect of the money you give, and as such money-giving is generally a loan, then you're quite likely to get your money back.

[Yudster]

It's not "targetted enough"... so, what are you saying, would you like someone to ring you up, and tell you exactly where the cash is going, yuds? Can you be sure, indeed, if any Charity gets the money going to the right places?

Yes, I can - I have a limited amount of money and I allocate it between specific charities which I have made myself familiar with, in terms of their operational ethos and their operational practices. It's not difficult.

[Vivienne]

Yes, indeed, Console, there is a natural instinct to protect one's own family (you explained in a PM previously)... however, MY point is Society needs to expand it's horizons, and get helping anyway, rather than questioning everything! Remember, 82125!!

And, there are those would say, we are all brothers and sisters (one large family in the Universe)!