[Yudster]

I think it's fine to have a single day to celebrate these things, but wurzel's beef is with the commercialisation of it rather than the existence of it. I think. And we always seem to associate commercialisation of tradition with the influx of American ideas and behaviours. There's possibly a reason for that.

[wurzel]

I think it's fine to have a single day to celebrate these things, but wurzel's beef is with the commercialisation of it rather than the existence of it. I think. And we always seem to associate commercialisation of tradition with the influx of American ideas and behaviours. There's possibly a reason for that.

Spot on Yuddy.

I do kind of have "a beef" with the existence, but only that i dont understand why people shoule show affection and love for their partners on this 1 day of the year.

My way of thinking, is that if you truely love someone, you will be romantic and show your affection and love to your partner 365 days a year.

Or is it just a teenage male being "old fashioned" and gentlemanly?

[Yudster]

But realistically when you are married to someone you aren't going to feel like that every day. I do think Valentines Day can be a focus for actually being able to remember, in the maelstrom of busyness and chaos that a lot of people's lives are, that you are with this person and living in this whirl with them for a reason - hopefully because you love them and they love you. But even whilst it's unrealistic to think you could consciously feel like that every day, it would equally be very sad if you only felt that way on Valentines Day too! And reminding each other why you are together doesn't have to involve spending money either.

[Console]

I think it's fine to have a single day to celebrate these things, but wurzel's beef is with the commercialisation of it rather than the existence of it. I think. And we always seem to associate commercialisation of tradition with the influx of American ideas and behaviours. There's possibly a reason for that.

Spot on Yuddy.

Right, so you don't like the way some (American) companies have seen these events and realised that people would be willing to spend money on pre-designed gifts and cards? I can kind of see the logic to that, you could say that they're abusing people in some respect. However, I don't see why it makes Valentine's day (or other 'commercialised' holidays) 'shit' or anything other than what it is, a single day out of the year devoted to the idea of love. How people celebrate that day is up to them, and if they choose to buy 'American crap' to give to the people they love then surely that is their prerogative. Even if you don't agree with that, I don't see why it makes the day 'shit' and whatever else you called it. If it's because you think that people should love each other all year round, then, ok, perhaps they should, but the reality is that people don't love each other all year round, or at least don't show that love all year round - some people need an excuse to show affection and love towards another.

[Yudster]

Or if not an excuse, then a reminder sometimes!

[Nicola_Red]

I'm single, so V-Day gets no money from me. That said, when I was with my ex we didn't celebrate it either. Once, after we'd had a huge argument just before Feb 14, he bought me a necklace. I told him to take it back. It just seemed to me like he was trying to buy me. That sounds terribly harsh now, but it was my gut instinct at the time.

[wurzel]

I'm single, so V-Day gets no money from me. That said, when I was with my ex we didn't celebrate it either.

Same here. Although ive only had 1 girlfriend for Valentines Day and i only celebrated it because she wanted to.

[Ezza]

I've never been with anyone for V-day, so its never had money from me. I dunno if i would celebrate it though if i did.

[kendra k]

i have v-day plans! go to a friends house and play with their pooch.

[S4B]

**Vomits**

I am really fed up with V day now. Had to review another mushy book on a radio station today. I'm making myself ill with all this crap.


I know I only feel worse cos no one will send me anything so I'll feel unloved and start on a new downward spiral. The whole thing should be banned, I wonder whether the suicide rate increases in the days following V Day.

[Ezza]

I always feel unloved. Its rubbish.

[S4B]

Aww Ez I loves ya kiddo!

[Ezza]

I love you too!

[foot-loose]

Aww Ez I loves ya kiddo!

I love you too!

You are both lying.

[S4B]

Why are we Footy? I love everyone unless they give me reason not to! You saying you don't want love from me? The alternative is not nice!

[foot-loose]

It's something i've never understood - people that say 'love you' to each other when they blatantly don't.

I suppose it might be my definition of the word that is at fault. Basically, i'm trying to start an argument.

[Yudster]

How dare you try to start an argument when I'm not here?

[foot-loose]

You are here, ya pillock.

[S4B]

It depends what you mean by love! I refer you once again to C S Lewis The Four Loves.

I love you all as one human being to another by that I mean I would miss you if you were not around and I had no contact with you, I enjoy chatting and arguing with you and I care about what happens to you. If that makes me an odd or bad person then so be it I'm not changing for some daft Scotchlander!

[Yudster]

I wasn't when you started. And who are you calling pillock, you twassock?

Anyway I don't think your fundamental problem is with your definition of the word "love". I think your fundamental problem is that you haven't grasped the simple truth that the word "love" is actually capable of being defined and used in several different ways. Oh, and your other problem is that you smell.

[Ezza]

I love everyone. Its my way.

[S4B]

I love everyone and everything - except pigeons!

[foot-loose]

you haven't grasped the simple truth that the word "love" is actually capable of being defined and used in several different ways.

I suppose it might be my definition of the word that is at fault.

As far as I see it, there are few words that are as strong as 'love' and I don't think anyone can really give an accurate definition of it.

I had a massive answer typed out here, but the above sentence pretty much covers it. That and I can't be arsed arguing any more.

[Yudster]

You're rubbish at arguing you are.

[foot-loose]

I know.