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By Boboff
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Did you hear the one the other day, I quite literally laughed out load for several minutes.

Right this guy has a really rough time, looses his girl his job, all that, so he sells his house and uses the equity to fund a round the world ticket, first stop China, unbeknown to his loved ones his intention was to commit suicide. So he gets to the wall with the Tour Party, they go left, he goes right, and climbs to to highest place he can find, iPod in hand he peers over the edge and contemplates his impending death ( at this point I was thinking what a complete Drama queen / show off etc ) anyway, this song comes on his iPod and changes his mind, it is his changing track and quite literally saved his life.

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Knarls Barclay and Crazy[


Sake man, really did have major giggle fit, what a TWAT !
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By Yudster
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I like the Live Lounge. Even acts I don't like can be better than you expect in that pared down setting. I've never been a Jo Whiley fan though. She always makes me feel as though she thinks I should be thanking her for broadcasting. Like she's doing the proles a favour.

I know he's cosily ensconced at Radio 2, but I would like to hear Chris Evans in that timeslot, I think it would suit him. And he's funny. Of course then he'd have to be replaced on drivetime at Radio 2, which would bring me back to finding an alternative to Scott Mills. Actually, silence would do.
By wurzel
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wurzel wrote:Her "Experts" are aload of crap aswell! Especially that finacial pr1ck! So aggressive he's almost exactly the same as Whiley.

Said w@nker is the "expert" today!

Think i might have to shoot the radio!
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By MK Chris
#326507
Why have you put 'expert' in inverted commas? This seems to signal that you don't believe he is an expert in the subject on which he talks, but I'd like to see you do better.. seriously, if you listen to what he says, you could quite probably learn a fair bit from him.

Plus, I agree with Foot-loose about not listening if you don't like it.
By wurzel
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Topher wrote:Why have you put 'expert' in inverted commas? This seems to signal that you don't believe he is an expert in the subject on which he talks, but I'd like to see you do better.. seriously, if you listen to what he says, you could quite probably learn a fair bit from him.

Plus, I agree with Foot-loose about not listening if you don't like it.

What makes him an expert compared to anyone else who talks about money etc? I bet there are more qualified "experts" out there than him. Also, what defines an expert? Such as the ones used on Jo's show? What makes them an expert in her eyes so much that she has them on her show?

I'm not listening now. Turned off just after the shuffle.
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By Vivienne
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Has anyone seen Jo's show on Sunday on Channel 4 re: unsigned bands? That too, should have been really good/interesting, but just wasn't.
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By Console
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wurzel wrote:what defines an expert? Such as the ones used on Jo's show?


An expert is just someone with a large amount of knowledge/expertise on a given subject. Does the person on Jo's show not match this description?
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By MK Chris
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wurzel wrote:
Topher wrote:Why have you put 'expert' in inverted commas? This seems to signal that you don't believe he is an expert in the subject on which he talks, but I'd like to see you do better.. seriously, if you listen to what he says, you could quite probably learn a fair bit from him.

Plus, I agree with Foot-loose about not listening if you don't like it.

What makes him an expert compared to anyone else who talks about money etc? I bet there are more qualified "experts" out there than him. Also, what defines an expert? Such as the ones used on Jo's show? What makes them an expert in her eyes so much that she has them on her show?

The guy took a class of 15 year old kids in a "Teen Master Class" (or something like that) for Tonight with Trevor McDonald, told them how they can save lots of money and they all went away and saved their parents an absolute ton of cash.. some as much as £5,000 a year.

I think he can be called an 'expert'.
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By Vivienne
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Console wrote:
wurzel wrote:what defines an expert? Such as the ones used on Jo's show?


An expert is just someone with a large amount of knowledge/expertise on a given subject. Does the person on Jo's show not match this description?


No.
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By MK Chris
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Why do you say 'no', Viv?
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By Vivienne
#326548
Because there are simply too many so-called "Experts" in town nowadays. I don't care for the word. Even our local library has "experts", which just about says it all.
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By Yudster
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"Expert" is an interesting one. I sometimes need to source expert witnesses for prosecutions and public inquiries. In that context, a person's depth of knowledge is obviously important, but unless they also have recognised professional qualifications and experience, it is irrelevant.
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By Console
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Vivienne wrote:Because there are simply too many so-called "Experts" in town nowadays. I don't care for the word. Even our local library has "experts", which just about says it all.


That's some logical and well thought out reasoning there, Viv.
By wurzel
#326552
Vivienne wrote:Because there are simply too many so-called "Experts" in town nowadays. I don't care for the word. Even our local library has "experts", which just about says it all.

Exactly my point.

The one scientist that can finally discover the cure for the common cold, he will be classed as an expert. Not someone who, like thousands, nee, millions of people worldwide, can help you save a few bob here and there.
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By Yudster
#326560
Console wrote:So your actual argument is against the definition of the word, not against the person?


Thats going to be a tough argument to win. A definition is a definition. One might not agree with it, but it isn't going to change for that reason.
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By MK Chris
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Vivienne wrote:Because there are simply too many so-called "Experts" in town nowadays. I don't care for the word. Even our local library has "experts", which just about says it all.

I agree that many people describe themselves, often unjustifiably, as 'experts'. However, in this case, I think he is right to call himself an 'expert'.

At the risk of sounding like an advert for the man, I challenge anyone who hasn't already to peruse his website at their leisure and not find some tips that could save them money.

Yudster wrote:"Expert" is an interesting one. I sometimes need to source expert witnesses for prosecutions and public inquiries. In that context, a person's depth of knowledge is obviously important, but unless they also have recognised professional qualifications and experience, it is irrelevant.

Yes, but is there a qualification for money saving? He certainly could be classed as having professional experience.

wurzel wrote:
Vivienne wrote:Because there are simply too many so-called "Experts" in town nowadays. I don't care for the word. Even our local library has "experts", which just about says it all.

Exactly my point.

The one scientist that can finally discover the cure for the common cold, he will be classed as an expert. Not someone who, like thousands, nee, millions of people worldwide, can helpy ou save a few bob here and there.

There are different types of expert. The scientist who finds a cure for a cold is quite possibly not an expert at saving money.
By wurzel
#326564
Console wrote:So your actual argument is against the definition of the word, not against the person?

Not its against both.
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By Vivienne
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It's quite simple! check this: There are basically too many so-called "experts" in this country. Nowadays, everyone is an expert. An expert at saving money is unimpressive. We could all do this if we set our minds to it. Even you could manage it, tophs! ;-) A true expert is, for example, one involved heavily in curing a form of Cancer for example. Something truly worthwhile.
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By MK Chris
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And helping to get thousands of people out of debt isn't worthwhile? I accept that curing cancer is truly worthwhile, but so, I think, is helping people to save money.

Debt can be a killer too you know - literally. Debt can and does rule people's lives. Someone who can help people to get out of debt is fighting a worthwhile cause, in my opinion.
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By Yudster
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Topher wrote:
Yudster wrote:"Expert" is an interesting one. I sometimes need to source expert witnesses for prosecutions and public inquiries. In that context, a person's depth of knowledge is obviously important, but unless they also have recognised professional qualifications and experience, it is irrelevant.

Yes, but is there a qualification for money saving? He certainly could be classed as having professional experience.



There's a whole raft of financial qualifications he might have, and a number of professional bodies which he may have membership of - and he would need demonstrable credentials to get into. Those are the things you need to look for.