[Vivienne]

sorry to disappoint you.

No apology necessary, the best things take time.

I didn't mean the apology, m'darling.

[Console]

To put it simply, when an event takes place, if gives rise to another event. If that exact scenario took place again (which is a logical impossibility, but for the sake of argument...) then the exact same outcome would occur.

For further reading, see the causality article on Wikipedia.

[Console]

I didn't mean the apology, m'darling.

And you actually felt you needed to clarify that?

[Vivienne]

I don't feel like reading wiki. You just set out to insult me and didn't like it when I gave it right back.

[Vivienne]

I didn't mean the apology, m'darling.

And you actually felt you needed to clarify that?

Just in case an equally stupid person didn't understand.

[Console]

You just set out to insult me and didn't like it when I gave it right back.

Nope, I set out to start a debate and to learn what you thought about things, and what gives you any indication that I didn't like it when you 'gave it right back'?

[Console]

Just in case an equally stupid person didn't understand.

Equally to whom?

[Vivienne]

You just set out to insult me and didn't like it when I gave it right back.

Nope, I set out to start a debate and to learn what you thought about things, and what gives you any indication that I didn't like it when you 'gave it right back'?

I have noticed a couple of times you appear to want to start something, thinking I am incapable of giving back an answer. This time, I am giving back lots of answers, explaining my views clearly, and you still ain't happy.

[Console]

I have noticed a couple of times you appear to want to start something, thinking I am incapable of giving back an answer. This time, I am giving back lots of answers, explaining my views clearly, and you still ain't happy.

If I am unhappy about anything, it is that you don't give any reasoning behind your opinions. And I have never just assumed that you are incapable of 'fighting' back, it's just that you haven't yet.

[Vivienne]

Not fighting back?? Er... what would you call this then exactly ? And I HAVE given reasoning behind opinions.

[Vivienne]

No answer for me ?? Nah, I didn't think you would.

[Console]

Sorry, allow me to re-clarify, you hadn't fought back. Although most of the 'arguments' you have posted in this last hour have mostly been about my motives and my supposed insulting of you, and not really about the subject we were originally debating. Also, I don't think you've really given much reasoning behind you're opinions, but in case I missed it, then please re-state them for me. What is it that makes you believe that we are all here to learn something? What experiences have you had the you believe confirms your beliefs?

[SAV1OUR]

So like I was saying the theory of randomness - Viv's emotions up and down the scale. And the theory of chaos - when a debate does not progress but actually becomes a battle of wits - quickfire volleying. I just thought that it was ironic I should bring up the randomness and the chaos (whether combined or not) into this thread.

I'd like to see viv go a bit deep, I have been "guilty" of this a lot, but hell it would be interesting if she ever exceeded 6 lines of text. I hope Console recieves the enlightenment from Viv at some point, once they understand each other they can really get stuck in.

[Vivienne]

I will re-clarify to YOU.. I HAVE fought back, and explained myself pretty well, I would say. I believe I am constantly learning things ... every experience has taught , and continues to teach me something I would or would not do again. I believe we are all on a pre-destined path of learning. OK. End of.

[Vivienne]

So like I was saying the theory of randomness - Viv's emotions up and down the scale. And the theory of chaos - when a debate does not progress but actually becomes a battle of wits - quickfire volleying. I just thought that it was ironic I should bring up the randomness and the chaos (whether combined or not) into this thread.

I'd like to see viv go a bit deep, I have been "guilty" of this a lot, but hell it would be interesting if she ever exceeded 6 lines of text. I hope Console recieves the enlightenment from Viv at some point, once they understand each other they can really get stuck in.

O, so I'm ultra emotional and have no depth?? This coming from a man who's threads are often only good for insomnia.

[SAV1OUR]

Viv talks to me about threads. I think I'm out for the count. Carry on dear.

[Vivienne]

No, actually I'm gonna bring to a close... I actually quite like you, btw, saviour... it's just you've got caught up in the firing line, that's all.

[Vivienne]

At this point, good night.

[Console]

I believe I am constantly learning things ... every experience has taught , and continues to teach me something I would or would not do again.

Yes, you're talking about the mental feed-back loop, which involves all the experiences and sensory information going round in a continuous loop, which allows us to react differently to different situations. Without this we wouldn't be able to understand and deal with new situations, and would quickly die out as a species. What makes you think there is some higher purpose to this learning other than the immediate survival or our (or any other) species? Why does there need to be anything higher? Is the 'miracle' of life not enough?

I believe we are all on a pre-destined path of learning.

End of.

Do you really believe that's the end of it? (Rhetoric, don't bother answering)

[Vivienne]

Ok, I won't bother.. good night.

[Console]

Good night, Viv.

[Boboff]

1:0 console v viv !


console, this is not meant in any way other than a genuine thank you, you abilities are tremendous, and I remain in your awe.

4 pages to say

* off viv you twat.

genius !

[MK Chris]

Viv, I think you are the oddest (notice I used the word 'odd', not 'weird', which is more perjorative) user I have seen on here, and I've seen some odd people.

I think the things that have been discussed in this thread are things that possibly will never be answered by science or any other way. However, I (like Foot-loose) believe religion was a convenient thing to invent at the time to explain the unexplainable. There are literally any number of reasons we may be here for, not least of which is complete coincidence. We do know we are a tiny part of something huge (namely the thing we call a Universe), but much beyond that is perhaps too complicated for the human brain to comprehend. I for one would love to know though.

Also, if I'm here to learn how not to get in the doghouse, tonight I failed.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

i have no issue with religion I can see why people quite like it and some of the rituals are quite nice. its the people that make it a force for bad.

[DemonHorse]

jeez console, you're getting as bad as Topher who keeps claiming not to be bothered by other peoples posts yet has to react to every single * one....