[Andy B]

Firstly on the freebies, No-one who works for the BBC is allowed to keep any of the free stuff that companies send them, they have to give them out as prizes. It doesn't always happen but them's the rules and why would chris be angling for freebies from Xbox or Sky when he already has Sky+HD and an XBox 360 and live account? Last I heard he was baning on about how great Ferrari's were but I don't see anyone delivering one of those to R1HQ.

Secondly with regard to Moyles seeming like he's given up trying and not caring anymore I think that has been where he has succeded and others have failed. People who try to be too funny and tell lots of jokes and who make it an act often don't last long because of the effort required. Moyles is just himself on a day o day basis, he may have a list of things he wants to talk about but makes it all up as he goes along (according to Aled's webchat). Sometimes it doesn't work but more often it does and that's his secret, he talks exactly as you would with your (generic 'your' before anyone contradicts) friends down the pub and as long as he just keeps on being himself then he'll always succed in my view.

[Quincy]

he always talks about stuff on air to get freebies. its funny.

[lalaland]

LalaLand, i think you have been out numbered.

That's fair enough, I respect other people's views or I wouldn't have asked for them in the first place.

Chris is brilliant and if you don't like his show then F*** off and get you head seeing to.

I see you are unable to accept my view though, I often find it's lesser intelligent or immature people that have to resort to that sort of post, never mind, the rest of the people on this forum seem friendly enough and while they don't agree with what I think they do respect the fact that it's my view and discuss their views with me.

Hey, welcome to the board, you're new so hello!

Er, you make some good points - but this is the sort of thread, Mr C Moyles is gonna hate reading. I suppose everyone hates to read bad stuff about them. However generally I think Chris hasnt past it, and carries on to be funny.

Thanks for the welcome.

I wasn't aware that Chris would read this, but that's fair enough if he does. I am sure he doesn't expect everyone to like his show. I am not writing this to be nasty to him, I am posting my views on his show.

Firstly on the freebies, No-one who works for the BBC is allowed to keep any of the free stuff that companies send them, they have to give them out as prizes. It doesn't always happen but them's the rules and why would chris be angling for freebies from Xbox or Sky when he already has Sky+HD and an XBox 360 and live account? Last I heard he was baning on about how great Ferrari's were but I don't see anyone delivering one of those to R1HQ.

I can't see him getting a Ferrari either, although I wouldn't be suprised if his Sky bill was cheaper than most or free each month, not sure if the BBC could check that. And as for other freebies, it's not hard to get them past the BBC if he wanted to do so. I am not saying he does this, but it's possible. I suppose if this was the case you could claim it's the perks of the job, but when you hear daily about this products and in such a blatant way it gets a bit repetetive.

Secondly with regard to Moyles seeming like he's given up trying and not caring anymore I think that has been where he has succeded and others have failed.

I just get the feeling at times that he feels that he has done better than all the others and that it's natural. There are some shows where you wonder where the content is or when the entertainment is going to kick in. I don't expect every show to be a top class product, but honestly some days it feels like somoene's just stepped in to the studio and gone on air without any experience or training.

he always talks about stuff on air to get freebies. its funny.

I am glad someone else agrees, although it's gone past the funny part for me now.

[Yudster]

LalaLand, I'm gutted! I can't believe that nothing I said was worthy of being quoted by you! My life is in ruins!

Andy B - you're right about the rules as far as BBC employees and freebies are concerned, but Chris Moyles isn't a BBC employee - I'm not sure what his contractural obligations would be as far as that kind of thing is concerned.

Oooh, there's a blue tit on the bird feeder in my window................

And LalaLand, please stick around?

[glennjpeace]

lalaland...if all you can do is question whether Moyles is good enough to be on the Breakfast slot....maybe you've come to the wrong site.

Like I said, the opinion of the members of this site are pretty obvious.

[Yudster]

Well, that clearly isn't ALL he has done, is it? He has generated one of the most thoughtful, well reasoned and well argued threads on this forum. You might not like how he did it, but its a damn fine piece of work.

[lalaland]

LalaLand, I'm gutted! I can't believe that nothing I said was worthy of being quoted by you! My life is in ruins!

Oh go on then,

I will freely admit that at times the aggressively led studio discussions annoy me to the extent that I switch off for a couple of minutes, but thats what the switch thingy is for - and its only a radio show, its not like I'm sending back my fish course at The Ivy. On the whole, I find it entertaining and funny, which is pretty much all I ask of the radio when I am in the car in the mornings.

He used to be great, he shows used to make me laugh, a lot, but it's like it's gone so far now and he's not really that fussed about putting in the effort any longer.

The days of 'Greyhead' were brilliant, if he could recapture that then I'd be impressed. That's not to say Rachel doesn't do a good job, she's not bad at what she does, but there's something missing from Chris' shows at present and it feels time to freshen up what now feels like a stale show. It used to be the case that I could laugh loudly on the way home or on some of the earlier breakfast shows (once he got settled in), but now I don't think it even gets a smile half the time.

Maybe a shuffle of the staff on that show or just a complete sit back and look over it all would work, he just needs motivation again I suppose.

although I wouldn't dream of complaining, because as I said, I am not who these programmes are aimed at.

That doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on it or complain if you feel the need.

And interestingly enough, Sara Cox had me in stitches this afternoon, what are you all on about, she is brilliant!

Sarah has long passed her sell by date. Back in the days when she had Sara (spelling?) on her show working with her, she was hilliarious and produced an excellent show. Then morning shows changed, she was off a lot and really seemed to lose interest and the show suffered. Chris stepped in and claimed it was just a shuffle around, but we all knew he was replacing the dead horse that Radio One had been flogging.

Andy B - you're right about the rules as far as BBC employees and freebies are concerned, but Chris Moyles isn't a BBC employee - I'm not sure what his contractural obligations would be as far as that kind of thing is concerned.

I didn't know that, you learn something new every day

Even if Chris was subject to these rules, it wouldn't be hard for companies to provide him with services or products without the BBC knowing. I know you could say that if he was doing this that it could be seen as a perk of the job, but product placment on a service we all pay for because it doesn't use adverts seems a bit of an insult to the license payer.

Oooh, there's a blue tit on the bird feeder in my window................

How nice for you. I can't have bird feeders in my garden as I have 3 cats that seem to enjoy torturing and eating birds.

And LalaLand, please stick around?

Hmm... Stick around in a forum where I appear about as popular as a sausage in a bar mitzvah, maybe I will

[lalaland]

lalaland...if all you can do is question whether Moyles is good enough to be on the Breakfast slot....maybe you've come to the wrong site.

I may be on the wrong site if this site is set up solely for the worship of Chris Moyles, however if it's here to discuss him and his show then I think I'm in the right place.

There's a good chance that members here listen to the show I am talking about, if I go elsewhere I may find there are less people there listening to the show.

Like I said, the opinion of the members of this site are pretty obvious.

Not as obvious as some might think. While nobody has totally agreed with all my points yet, some have found the odd one or two make sense.

[Boboff]

GlenJpreace, look back at some of the older ( Aug - Sept ) threads, the opinions of people on this site were, shall we say, angry.

Lalaland makes some good points, and Yudster has blue tits in her garden, cold this time of year.

Lalaland, what site do you run ?

[lalaland]

I'd rather not mention my site's URL in this topic as I don't want to be seen to be advertising or spamming and I don't want to take the thread of topic either.

I have sent you details via PM.

[Yudster]

The blue tits are at the feeder stuck to the window of my office. And yes, I'm getting loads of work done, being a woman, I can do more than three things at once! And sorry LalaLand, I don't have your discipline when it comes to staying on-topic....!

[Mr Pointy]

WTF?? Lalaland is about right mate. Chris has the only show on R1 that i bother with. He's an absolute star (along with the rest of the team!) and I hope he stays on the air for good

[Boboff]

young man, stop it.

It's not big and clever to swear, MC told me ( where's he been of late, moderation failure at present )

I think the point that Lalaland makes is that the show is getting a bit stale, and samey, which I don't think it is, but with a show that makes changes in January by October, feature fateague does set in a bit.

Anyway who said this was a fan site ? It's a forum open to all, I didn't swear an oath to Chris Moyles at any time, although I would if he asked me nicely.....

Small point but you Accept peoples opinions, except other people opinions, means you don't accept them, if you see what I mean, pedantic I know, but important.

Hope your having a good day and the tourettes sorts itself out.

*, F//k, Bum, Poo Head. Sorry........

[Yudster]

Fowler's ok, he's just being young and loyal. And yes, spelling, punctuation and grammar are all very important. This is an example of how to marginalise yourself.

[whatsthestory]

Does anyone else think with Scott Mills doing Chris' show recently that this highlights how much Chris has gone down hill?

In a word no, personally can't stand Scott Mills or his show, but each to their own.

Now present day, Chris' show is dull, repetative and seems to suffer from product placement.

Over the past 2 weeks or so I would agree, though I think the constant guests cause this. I'm not a big fan of having SO MANY guests on in such a short period of time, yes the odd guest can be funny, but often its like pulling teeth,e.g. Keith and Lily Allen.

Chris no longer presents a decent show.

The main arguement against that is the increased listening figures, you could argue that he has become more mainstream and less Howard Stern like now that he's presenting the morning show, but I think it's the show evolving to a broader audience.

Most of the time his shows are him being sarchastic, talking down to callers or listners, Dave trying to say the same lines as Chris and jumping in half way through, the same old product placement for Sky plus and Xbox etc. and not much else. It's not entertaining any longer.

This is obviously personal choice, I'm still amused when Chris has a go at the callers, belittle's Carrie, Aled etc...

Scott's show in the morning at the moment is a fresh lease of life. The downsides are that we have to put up with Sarah Cox in the evening pushing out her 'past it' show hoping that she may once again be entertaining, but that's long gone.

Not sure what meets your critrea of 'fresh lease of life' and 'past it', though personally think there both crap. Especially Mills with those two sicofantic morons Chappers and Laura.

I seriously think it's time to replace Chris Moyles and Sarah Cox, the morning show slot has done it's dammage and both are no longer entertaining. I am not calling for Scott to be moved to the morning slot, leave him in the afternoon as the morning show seems to ruin any DJ placed there.

Considering Moyles has added so many new listners, I can't see Radio 1 getting rid of him anytime shortly.

[Boboff]

The site is called Simalert.com

The main site is at http://www.simalert.com and the forum is at http://forum.simalert.com

I suppose this is ok, lala, has kindly explained to me the point of this site and forum, and it does seem interesting, basically you get to know where you get free sim cards from, the nice bit is that you can hope to get a number which is cool, like 07696 9696969, which would be so cool.

Did you know that you can get the registration BJ 04 RLM ? (my initials ) Just a thought !

[Yudster]

O2 sent me a load of free sim cards yesterday - I have NO idea why.

[lalaland]

8O WTF?? Lalaland is about right mate.

Glad you agree with me

Chris has the only show on R1 that i bother with. He's an absolute star (along with the rest of the team!) and I hope he stays on the air for good

You obviously like him as he appeals to you, but remember we are all different, I used to enjoy his shows and don't any longer.

I suppose it's the same in other things. I like watching Prison Break and am currently awaiting the end of the stupid baseball games in the US which has caused a 3 week break of series two right at an exciting point. I am sure there are some people which are glad baseball is on, but to me it's boring and I'd rather watch PB. Not everyone is in to the same things, it doesn't make them any more or less right, it's just an opinion.

I know it's their opinion but whats the point of coming on to this site which is a fan site of chris just to say you don't like him so if he has come on here just to say he's rubbish then he should F*** off and that is my opinion.

So is this a site to discuss Chris Moyles and his show or is it a site where worship of Chris occurs and to say a bad word against him is blasphemy?

I was under the impression it's the first one. I came here to give my views on the show and see what others thought. Had I have come here and trolled the site or posted pure abuse, maybe chucking in the odd F word, I could appreciate why some people would take offence, but as it is I can't see what your problem is?

You seem to be under the impression that it's wrong to have a view different to yours? That maybe I am not permitted to post on here my own views about Chris or his show?

I don't see why you take offence to me posting my views and engaging in a conversation with others on here, do you have some sort of special feelings for Chris that I've maybe hurt? I can assure you my intentions were not to do that and if I've hurt your feelings I apologise but I don't see the need for your anger or abuse.

There are some people on here that are taking part in this discussion with me and this is how we all learn from each other. If you aren't keen on my posts I won't be offended if you don't read them, or feel free to start a thread about Lalaland and asking people if I've lost my ability to create decent posts in the same way I am asking this of Chris and his show.

Anyway if anyone should F*** off then you should tropher as i can except other peoples opinions.

You are an angry person aren't you.

It's not nice to tell people to F off and it seems a little pointless by this point too as we've all seen that word get's *'d out.

Does the discussion of other people's views about a person and his show really generate such anger and hate inside you that you feel the need to be abusive to people and tell them to leave a forum? Try counting to 10 slowly and taking some nice relaxing breaths, the thread's not so bad and there are far worse things going on in the world to get yourself wound up about.

[lalaland]

Fowler's ok, he's just being young and loyal. And yes, spelling, punctuation and grammar are all very important. This is an example of how to marginalise yourself.

But is this loyalty a good thing? He seems to get abusive and agry towards people that don't share the same view as him towards Chris Moyles.

Have I uncovered some sort of Moyle's Extremists? Is this the next threat to the free world??

[Ballbag]

What's your favourite crisps flavour lalaland.... it'd had better be cheese and onion, otherwise you can just F*** off.

[Yudster]

No, but give him a break, he's very young and I remember how frustrating everything about life was when I was that kind of age. He's a good guy really. I would guess that his anger and frustration are generated elsewhere, somewhere nothing to do with you or this forum or Chris Moyles - you are just a useful place to let off some steam right now. I'm sure you can cope.

[lalaland]

In a word no, personally can't stand Scott Mills or his show, but each to their own.

Exactly, I am glad some people on here can accept other's views without the use of abusive comments.

Over the past 2 weeks or so I would agree, though I think the constant guests cause this. I'm not a big fan of having SO MANY guests on in such a short period of time, yes the odd guest can be funny, but often its like pulling teeth,e.g. Keith and Lily Allen.

The main arguement against that is the increased listening figures, you could argue that he has become more mainstream and less Howard Stern like now that he's presenting the morning show, but I think it's the show evolving to a broader audience.

This could well be the case, maybe I am too much in to the old style that Chris used to do and don't feel happy with his changing format.

Having said that, there is very little choice in Sheffield when it comes to morning radio, I suspect some people may be doing what I do, listening in just for some noise instead of the sound of traffic and wipers while going to work. My other choices of Hallam FM and Galaxy are not even worth considering and radio 2 doesn't get interesting until Jeremy Vine comes on at lunch time and presents an excellent debate show which is much better than listening to Radio One's line up of Edith without Collin as I don't think she works well without him to help her.

This is obviously personal choice, I'm still amused when Chris has a go at the callers, belittle's Carrie, Aled etc...

Carrie and Aled and the comments associated with them are actually some of the only bits of the show I like. The attitude he has with callers was funny at one point and if it was only occasional that he was like this then it may still be funny, but he's like the kid in class back at school when he found a funny line and never got bored of saying it, despite what the rest of the class thought.

Not sure what meets your critrea of 'fresh lease of life' and 'past it', though personally think there both crap. Especially Mills with those two sicofantic morons Chappers and Laura.

I actually enjoy Laura's diary, that may be sad but it makes me laugh. As for the 'one night with Laura' bit a while back, that wasn't up to much.

Chappers, he's actually quite amusing and I think he works well with Scott.

Considering Moyles has added so many new listners, I can't see Radio 1 getting rid of him anytime shortly.

I suspect you are right unfortunately and at the same time I cannot think who I would want to replace Chris. I wouldn't want to spoil Scott's show by puttnig him in the morning slot, the curse may take away the fun of that too. The rest I am not sure are up to it at present.

Just back on to Sarah Cox again, I ended up turning off the radio completely on the way home last night. It was a little dull in the car but it was more fun listening to my blowers on the dashboard pushing out air than having her drone through the radio making rush hour drag. Not even Chris manages to get me that far as to turn off my radio completely normally.

[lalaland]

The site is called Simalert.com

The main site is at http://www.simalert.com and the forum is at http://forum.simalert.com

I didn't want to post my site as I didn't want people thinking I was advertising, but if you wish to mention it I presume that's ok.

I suppose this is ok, lala, has kindly explained to me the point of this site and forum, and it does seem interesting, basically you get to know where you get free sim cards from, the nice bit is that you can hope to get a number which is cool, like 07696 9696969, which would be so cool.

There's quite a bit more to the site than that, otherwise I doubt I'd have 11,000 members on the main site and 6,000 on the forum.

The bit you point out about getting the free sims is actually quite a money maker for quite a few of my members. A lot of people sell the free sims on to others with very little overheads and seem to do ok adding to their income with it. The number example you mention is what's called a 'gold number' and these can be very profitable.

Did you know that you can get the registration BJ 04 RLM ? (my initials ) Just a thought !

Anyway, I don't want to drag off topic so I'll end my reply to this here.

[lalaland]

No, but give him a break, he's very young and I remember how frustrating everything about life was when I was that kind of age. He's a good guy really. I would guess that his anger and frustration are generated elsewhere, somewhere nothing to do with you or this forum or Chris Moyles - you are just a useful place to let off some steam right now. I'm sure you can cope.

I can cope quite happily, but think the sooner this person realises his actions may not be the nicest thing to do the better.

If he wishes to continue with the abuse fair enough, it sounds like a teenage thing from the way you describe it and I'm sure he'll grow out of that after a while so it's understandable.

There's no need for me to send him to the naughty step just yet

[lalaland]

What's your favourite crisps flavour lalaland.... it'd had better be cheese and onion, otherwise you can just F*** off.

Well I guess I'd better move on, us salt and vinegar lovers are never welcome anywhere