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By Betti911
#174470
Someone sent this today to me as a fwd.

How to Win Arguments

I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:

Get Excited.
Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. By talking louder than the other guy, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may even leave the room.

Make things up.
Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."

Note: Always make up exact figures.

If an opponent then asks where you got your information, make THAT up, too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say, "You left your soiled underwear in my bathroom."

Use meaningless but weighty-sounding words and phrases.
Memorize this list:

Let me put it this way.
In terms of
Vis-a-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
So to speak
You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.", "e.g.", and "i.e.". These are all short for, "I speak Latin, and you do not."

Here's how to use those words and phrases. Suppose you want to say: "Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money."

You never win arguments like that. But you WILL win if you say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D."

Only a fool would challenge that statement.

Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.
You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevant phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples and oranges.
What are your parameters?
This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Here's how to use your comebacks:

You say, "As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873..." Your opponent says, "Lincoln died in 1865." You say, "You're begging the question."

OR

You say, "Liberians, like most Asians..." Your opponent says, "Liberia is in Africa." You say, "You're being defensive."

So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull any of this on people who carry weapons.
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By Andy Bkr
#174471
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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By Quincy
#174474
betti anything american is crap
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By Betti911
#174475
Wake up Andy you're at work!

Think I use most of argument those tactics tho.
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By Quincy
#174477
betti you must get slapped a lot!
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By Betti911
#174480
Hopefully not when I get to speak in court this July.

Some American stuff is funny. I like Frasier.
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By Betti911
#174489
I don't strop that much. I hate arguing most of the time. It just upsets me. I do enough arguing for people at work.
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By Betti911
#174491
Do guys get as upset as girls when they argue with their partners?
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By Andy Bkr
#174493
not upset more p*ssed off i think
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By Betti911
#174494
So would you not be worried hence making you upset?

Its weird how in general stress means more tears for girls and more aggression for guys.
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By Quincy
#174495
no. we can just never win. the argument always gets turned round on to us so that we look bad even if its not our fault then we get mad
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By Andy Bkr
#174496
yep women are the experts if they are losing the arguement right on cue the tears start
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By Betti911
#174497
I would never be so manipulative tho... don't think most girls are either.

Maybe you guys are losing the arguments cause you are actually in the wrong?
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By Ickle Angel
#174498
No they dont. As betti says women just hate arguing and so are generally upset not just to be a distraction from an argument.

Also it is always the womans job to say sorry. Blokes never do they just sit there and wait for us to.
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By Betti911
#174501
I disagree. I think it is whoever CAUSED the arguments job to apologise. If its me I'm usually perfectly willing to apologise once I've calmed down.
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By Andy Bkr
#174502
suddenly im on the board with just u two wheres all the men to back me up?
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By Andy Bkr
#174503
i wanna hear flying hippos opinion lol come on gus be brave
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By Ickle Angel
#174504
Betti911 wrote:I disagree. I think it is whoever CAUSED the arguments job to apologise. If its me I'm usually perfectly willing to apologise once I've calmed down.


I agree that thats how it should be and that is me. If its my fault i will apologise but i always end up apologising anyway because of the stress arguments cause me and the tension thats there when your not speaking
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By Betti911
#174505
I don't think you should apologise for something thats not your fault cause then its just empty words and you don't mean it. You'll end up just having the same argument over again that way!
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By theflyinghippo
#174506
it is always the womans job to say sorry, the apology can be verbal or physical, either method is fine with me ;)
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By Andy Bkr
#174507
after that ull not be getting anything physical 2nite lol