[dimtimjim]

Years n years ago I had an itchy eye. After day or two it got bad enough I knew something wasn't right, so went to hospital to get it checked out.

turns out I had the tiniest little shard of metal embedded in my eye. The nurse said since it had been in there a few days my eye had started to absorb rust from the slither. I had to have part of my eye ball scratched away to remove the metal splinter.... not a nice process at all. And for the next few days whenever I moved my eyes to look around, I could feel the roughness from the bit they'd scratched away on inside of my eyelid. Bleuggggh.

[Yudster]

I knew someone who got a metal splinter in their eye - they got it out in A&E with a really powerful magnet apparently. I don't think his had gone rusty.

[dimtimjim]

just googled BBC to get to the sport site, and a photo of moyles came up, it was this story....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095189/BBC-Radio-4s-Today-programme-brink-overtaking-Chris-Moyles-breakfast-ratings.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

now, I know its the Daily Mail (bunch of *ers), but how lazy can journalism get...? Why, oh why, oh why, can they not use a photo of Chris that is at least less than a decade old?!!

[Johnny 1989]

Work has been playing on my mind for the last few hours, we've got a complete wanker of an admin manager in our office that no one likes (he's a snitch, doesn't like any sort of fun in the office at all, even though the other managers are fine with a bit of fun, and is sneaky, if he knows something he's going to tell his staff will cause confrontation he'll send an email before he leaves for the day so that they can't have a go at him).

Anyway it's become apparent that several staff across the country have been put "at risk" and he also hinted that there was "a big shake up" coming soon but wouldn't elaborate, either way this has been playing on my mind tonight as I've been off work the last three days & I know I'm probably jumping to conclusions but I'm starting to get worried about a possible redundancy, I know I really don't like the place now but it's something I could really do without. I think it's the way the slimy sod has gone about it, he's basically put that out there knowing that it'll will cause problems in the office. Some of the staff complained but a friend at work said it seems nothing has happened to him.

Gah, need to get to bed really to clear my mind of this

[foot-loose]

If the guys a pillock and likes stirring it, ignore him. We have one of those in my office. I didn't need to work with him till recently and hadn't realised what he was like. Now I know, anything he tells me (even plausible stuff) is taken with a pinch of salt and ignored as much as possible. If the guy has worried you, talk to a manager you trust and fully explain why you are asking the questions. If he's spreading rumours he shouldn't, he'll get the bollocking he deserves.

Office rumours are one of the worst things I've seen to affect moral.

[Boboff]

That, and shagging the bosses wife.

[foot-loose]

... unless you're the boss.

[Yudster]

Porridge. I'm eating it because I know its good for me and I know it will fill me up and I won't feel hungry at 10 o clock, but honestly, without sugar, or something to make it taste nice, it is RANK.

[foot-loose]

I have mine with a little drop of honey. Red milk as well. Tastes fine.

Oh, yesterday was a little drop of lemon curd for added excitement value but I had to use some cream cos I ran out of red milk. That will have made it more indulgent. I'll get back to you on cream free red milk and curd porridge once sampled.

[Yudster]

I can't have the honey, I'm on a diet and I'm not adding sugar (yes, honey IS just sugar) to anything. I weighed myself last Sunday and I was horrified. This cannot continue.

[dimtimjim]

I weighed myself last Sunday and I was horrified.

You were horrified?! Think what the scales were going through!







Sorry.

[Boboff]

Ha, me too Yuds!

18st 11lb's last weigh in!

So no Beer, but lots of Porridge and low fat food, and yesterday Squash and Gym for 2 hours, didn't sweat much for a Fat Lad.

Porridge is really nice with Fruit Salad I have found out this week, Low fat Yogurt on top Mrs B likes too, but its a bit sour for me.

I made french onion soup this week ( Home made stock from Roast Chicken, 5lb of Onions {5 kg for £1.99 at Lidl} chop, brown, add stock, simmer and blits) it's low fat and really Yummy, I added a bit of Garic and Julliened Celeriac to mine, but it's so sweet and meaty, and not like onions at all, Lush.

Shall we start a Moyles weight loss thread?

[Nicola_Red]

Coincidentally, an email came round the building this morning from a woman in HR saying that Slimming World want to start a group here. We immediately started a derogatory discussion about their use of the term 'syns' - it's safe to say that nobody in box office will be joining!

[Boboff]

Slimming World is an excellent diet, that works really well.

It just means you can't eat meat with potatoes or rice or pasta, which is basically normal food for us meat eater.

[Yudster]

I'm joining the diet discussion and the diet thread but I will post in there so the uninterested can ignore it more easily!

[Nicola_Red]

Slimming World is an excellent diet, that works really well.

It just means you can't eat meat with potatoes or rice or pasta, which is basically normal food for us meat eaters.

It's not the efficacy of the diet I was commenting on - it's their choice of word. Just in case people don't feel guilty and messed up about food and weight already, you can now start thinking of high calorie and fat foods as sinful! Great.

I promise I won't post in the weight loss thread being bolshy and argumentative, though

[Boboff]

Crack on !

See having done it a couple of times, and lost a reasonable amount of weight on it, that conotation for me and my wife etc was not important.

The fact you are on a diet really doesn't mean you are messed up about food or weight.

It's like people who don't like to be called FAT, it is only a word, and it is a word which describes very accurately the only reason someone is overweight. The weight that they are "over" by is made up of FAT, which we are programmed to store in our bodies when we eat to much and do too little. It also makes your meat more tasty.

[Nicola_Red]

The fact you are on a diet really doesn't mean you are messed up about food or weight.

It's like people who don't like to be called FAT, it is only a word, and it is a word which describes very accurately the only reason someone is overweight. The weight that they are "over" by is made up of FAT, which we are programmed to store in our bodies when we eat to much and do too little. It also makes your meat more tasty.

No, you're right, but an awful lot of dieters are. Being a supporter of Fat Acceptance, I have no problems with the word fat. I now see it as just an adjective, like 'tall'. But it's been a long journey to get to that point for me.

[Yudster]

I don't have a problem with being CALLED fat. I do however have a problem with BEING fat, and I don't apologise for that - being overweight gives me aching knees, makes me feel tired and is annoying when I look horrible in nice clothes.

[Yudster]

I mean that I don;t regard it as an insult, its just a description - and at the moment, an accurate one.

[Nicola_Red]

Obviously I wouldn't ever criticise someone for wanting to lose weight on a personal level - people often mistake FA for decreeing that everyone should want to gain, or at least not lose, weight. It's not that at all, it's about body autonomy and not judging or shaming people for their choices - it's the whole culture of thinness that angers me, the way celebs are shamed for weight gain in the media etc. That comes down to a personal level when you're a size 16/18 and can't find anything to fit cos mainstream fashion stores have decreed that you're too fat for their clothes. Instead of wanting to lose weight to fit the clothes, I want to question the system. Like I said - I am bolshy and argumentative about this stuff.

[chrysostom]

I'm vain and want to look good physically to a generically socially acceptable level, so my body can match my smoking hot face. Thus I'm ok with not being happy with my body size.

[Boboff]

Don't like this, it gets ever so personal doesn't it.

Nic, on the clothes front, I don't agree with you at all. Now I know that as a bloke you would think I would know nothing about Womens clothes in large sizes, but I do......

No you potty mind, Mrs B has gone from a 22 - 24 to a 12 - 14 in the last 6 months, and I have always shopped for her, as she is tall, and never know what is going to fit, so she stays in the Changin Room and I Gok it round the store, this year I have even been called upon to help my daughter as well do the same thing.

What I would say is Basic and Normal chains ( New Look, Primark, Peacocks, Supermarkets, M&S, Evans!, QS, Dot P, BHS,) all do up to 22 - 24 sizes, but the silly girl brands, and NEXT, and allot of Zara type shite don't do the right cut or sizes. This is just market forces.

Oh I don't know I could say more, but you need to shop in the right shops and buy the cut that is right for you, not ever get hung up on what the label says.

In my silly world I know I find a size 20 woman who is dressed to her size, who ooozes happines, and confidence, so much more attractive than a size 16 - 18 who starved herself all week, is wearing all manner of hold me in push me up stuff with clothes too small that she has to keep pulling up to hide bits of flesh, yuk.

[Nicola_Red]

I very much agree with you about getting clothes that fit right, regardless of the label. But why should bigger women be excluded from any stores? What about teenage girls who are size 20 - they don't wanna wear the same clothes I want to, why should they not be able to shop in places like Zara or Miss Selfridge, especially when they're at the age when fitting in with their friends by having the latest fashions is important? This is what I mean about questioning the system. I don't take this stuff personally, I am strong in that respect - it's a social issue.

Also... Manchester has the biggest Primark store outside of Ireland, so I can say with confidence that they do not make 22-24 - their biggest size is a 20. And I have a 20 dress from there right here and the chest measures the same as an Evans 16! New Look also only do 18+ in their separate plus range which is almost all frumpy baggy t shirts and midi skirts. Very little for young fashionable people.

[Johnny 1989]

If the guys a pillock and likes stirring it, ignore him. We have one of those in my office. I didn't need to work with him till recently and hadn't realised what he was like. Now I know, anything he tells me (even plausible stuff) is taken with a pinch of salt and ignored as much as possible. If the guy has worried you, talk to a manager you trust and fully explain why you are asking the questions. If he's spreading rumours he shouldn't, he'll get the bollocking he deserves.

Office rumours are one of the worst things I've seen to affect moral.

Well Foots turns out I had nothing to worry about, apparently two colleagues complained about him, apparently it was complete bollocks & he said it to his team to "keep them on his toes", suffice to say when the regional manager is next in our office he's due for a bollocking.

Thing is I know he doesn't like me, well it feels like it, he's taken away access to our stores for all admin staff, however being one of the few males in the office when our line managers are on site visits I have to sometimes go out to stores, our storeman has repeatedly asked for my access card to be added back to stores but he continually ignores it. He also took away my access on my computer system for a particular bit of software because I did something I shouldn't of done (even though my manager instructed me to do it) and yet others in my department & our service department still have access to it (and after numerous tries to get it back he won't re-activate it), and every time I ask him something he always either denies it's existence or says he knows nothing about it yet five minutes later one of his staff find what I need & give it to me.

I think he knows the feeling is mutual, in the office he was in my eyeline, yet last Friday he put a pot plant up so I couldn't see his ugly mush. Thankfully I'm not alone in disliking him (virtually the whole office does) and to be honest I hate that when happens to a person normally, however he has brought it on himself plus he was one of the ones responsible for the mass redundancies in our old office 3 years ago & some good people who were much better workers lost their jobs partially because of him.

Anyway it doesn't matter now he will get his comeuppance.