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By MK Chris
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Yudster wrote:A Doctor Who chick flick? Yikes.

Ha, Richard Curtis has done far more than just chick flicks as well you know!
By Jill
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Didnt think last nights episode was all that great to be honest. Still trying to make up my mind about Matt Smith. He is good but David Tennant was just awesome.
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By Yudster
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I really loved the Van Gogh episode, its one of my favourites ever. Sentimental old biddy that I am.
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By Johnny 1989
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Really enjoyed last nights episode, Matt Smith is one of my favourite Doctors now, up there with Tom Baker & Patrick Troughton. One thing I really like about Matt's Doctor is he's rather alien in some of his actions & thoughts, which for me is how The Doctor should be. I did like Tennant but at times I found that you did kind of forget that he was alien, whereas Eccleston & Smith they do act alien, especially when it comes to emotions.

I've actually enjoyed a lot of this series, more so than the "specials" year, sure a couple of the stories have been a bit patchy but then that's true of all the 31 series there has been of Doctor Who (apart from Series 12-14 in my opinion when Philip Hinchcliffe was producer)
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By Johnny 1989
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There's been a few I've enjoyed this series, The Eleventh Hour, The Beast Below, Time Of The Angels (both parts), Amy's Choice & Vincent and The Doctor. I've actually found this series more re-watchable than some of the others. Matt Smith for me has nailed this part & I think Karen is doing a great job as Amy as well (even if on the odd occasion the writers are a little unsure on what to write for her). Good fun all round :)
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By Yudster
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I hate to say this but I don't take to the character of Amy at all, at least not until the Vincent episode where I thought she was more believeable. Karen Gillan isn't a great actor either - she's no Billie Piper that's for sure. Gorgeous though, and yes, that counts for a lot in this kind of show. I'm also disappointed that the storylines have become more CBBC-like, less complex and far less challenging. Less exciting really - and aimed at a much younger audience. Nothing so dark as the Ecclestone shows and many of the Tennant ones. Can't imagine Matt Smith encountering those kids in the gas masks for instance.

However - still love it, and Vincent was my favourite so far. I love a bit of sentiment and the conclusion was so satisfying and romantic. Loved it, and I am warming up nicely to Matt Smith.
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By Johnny 1989
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Interesting you mention Amy, several people who are disappointed with the character don't actually have a problem with Karen herself but more with the character of Amy. I don't think Karen herself is the problem it's more the scriptwriters having trouble writing for her, in some stories she's been good - excellent (The Eleventh Hour, Time & The Angels (both parts), Amy's Choice, the last 5-10 minutes of the Silurian two parter & Vincent and The Doctor) however in a couple (Victory Of The Daleks) she hasn't worked so well, but it seems as if the writers have a bit of trouble writing for her.

Personally I rather like her, I did like Rose in Series 1 but couldn't stand her by the time she left, Catherine Tate & Bernard Cribbins have been the two shining companions since it's come back however, can't fault either of them :)
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By Yudster
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I'm not convinced by Karen Gillen's acting ability at all, she is very "one note" and she tends to act by pulling faces - she's a bit limited. Amy though is the real problem I think. She is simply not believeable, this whole "caution to the winds" personality they have given her is totally inappropriate. Yes of course the companion has to be brave, but Amy is just thoughtless and jumps into all these unknown and clearly deadly dangerous situations with complete abandon, which, given that she is portrayed as an intelligent person, simply doesn't fit. She is supposed to be bright but she is thoughtless and reckless - it doesn't fit and makes her very one dimensional.
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By chrysostom
#411704
she's also an annoyingly powerful companion, who seems to lead the doctor and treats him like she's in charge.

worst trait for a companion of the doctor.

plus she's slutty innit.

what would it take to get a pair of jeans on her.
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By Yudster
#411705
chrysostom wrote:she's also an annoyingly powerful companion, who seems to lead the doctor and treats him like she's in charge.

worst trait for a companion of the doctor.

Exactly
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By Johnny 1989
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Yudster wrote:
chrysostom wrote:she's also an annoyingly powerful companion, who seems to lead the doctor and treats him like she's in charge.

worst trait for a companion of the doctor.

Exactly


Seems I'm alone here in liking her then, oh well :lol:
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By chrysostom
#411708
she seems to have 3 main personality traits

a) i'm scottish, laddie.

b) i'm a powerful woman who won't get pushed around or yield to a male counterpart.

c) i'm pretty, and i'm not embarrassed by it.

although i really disliked rose about half a season in given that she was in love with the doctor. Freema Agyemang was a much needed refreshing change
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By Yudster
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I don't dislike Amy all that much, I just think that her character demonstrates quite strongly the weakness in most of the writing in this series. It was noticeable that (apart from one or two moments) in the Vincent episode she was much more rounded and human - different writer.
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By Johnny 1989
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Yudster wrote:I don't dislike Amy all that much, I just think that her character demonstrates quite strongly the weakness in most of the writing in this series. It was noticeable that (apart from one or two moments) in the Vincent episode she was much more rounded and human - different writer.


I agree her part hasn't been wrote as well as The new Doctor's, it's rather strange to say this considering they did this back in 2005 for Chris/Billie, but perhaps the writers are having problems writing for both a new Doctor & new companion. I do still like her myself but there you are.

When he time to go comes I hope they do what they did with Jamie & Leela, and get a companion from a different time period (Leela was from another planet admittedly, although her ancestors were from Earth, however she was a savage) if only because it gives them another angle to work from.
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By Yudster
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The whole Rory thing really didnt work at all did it - they seemed to realise that pretty quickly, I can't believe the original idea was to kill him off so soon. The whole Doctor-Companion-Companion's Boyfriend thing has been done before anyway with Rose and Micky - and done really brilliantly. Rory and Amy were never going to live up to that.

You know I am enjoying Dr Who and its still must-see telly on a Saturday evening for me - but the more I think about it the more I realise that this new series isn't a patch on the Ecclestone/Tennant era. I miss it a lot. Keep Matt Smith, get a better companion and get writers who can write stuff that kids will enjoy but wouldn't sit comfortably on CBBC. At the moment Dr Who is no better than The Sarah Jane Adventures or whatever its called (although that is a very good kids' show).
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By chrysostom
#411728
The worst thing is that, it's feels like what's going to happen with the rory debacle is that her and the doctor will kiss, she'll remember her (ex?) and go mental at him.
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By Boboff
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Well I think she is lovely, and I really can't be arsed to analyse any more than that, I enjoy the show, she is pretty lush, I like the new Doctor, I like the stories, they arn't going to change the world but for me and my son it provides entertainment, for which I am thankfull.
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By Yudster
#411734
I love you Boboff.
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By Sidders
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Sorry to poke my nose in where it probably doesn't concern me, but I can't believe people are complaining about the doctor's side-kick being badly written into the script and not being believable. Just take a look at the majority of the story lines!!

I used to like Doctor Who back in the old days, and while I will still watch it when I can, I just find it all very confusing these days. I don't think the 45 minute stand alone episode format suits the show. It used to be better when the story would develop over 4-5 shorter episodes, and it didn't try and cram too much into one episode. It was more about the sci-fi rather than about the action. Now-a-days the world is about to end, Doctor has a brain wave, points his sonic screwdriver at something and everything is saved. It's pretty much the same every week. It gets quite boring after a while.
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By Johnny 1989
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charlalottie wrote:Maybe since Rory's buggered off, that can actually concentrate on her properly? I hope so. Also am I the only one who though Amy's Choice was one of the weakest episodes?


I though Amy's Choice was a brilliant episode, it wasn't "of the norm" so stood out a bit for me, much like Vincent & The Doctor

Yudster wrote:The whole Rory thing really didnt work at all did it - they seemed to realise that pretty quickly, I can't believe the original idea was to kill him off so soon. The whole Doctor-Companion-Companion's Boyfriend thing has been done before anyway with Rose and Micky - and done really brilliantly. Rory and Amy were never going to live up to that.

You know I am enjoying Dr Who and its still must-see telly on a Saturday evening for me - but the more I think about it the more I realise that this new series isn't a patch on the Ecclestone/Tennant era. I miss it a lot. Keep Matt Smith, get a better companion and get writers who can write stuff that kids will enjoy but wouldn't sit comfortably on CBBC. At the moment Dr Who is no better than The Sarah Jane Adventures or whatever its called (although that is a very good kids' show).


On your first paragraph, well I won't comment on that at present.

On your second paragraph, whilst I enjoyed Eccleston/Tennant I do find I'm like the Smith era a bit more, don't get me wrong I liked Eccleston's era & most of Tennant's, but with some of the Tennant episodes it just went a bit too OTT at times for me, sentimental mind, not that I mind sentimental moments but there were times, for me at least, during Tennant's run that it was a bit too much, not that I blame Tennant for that mind.
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By Johnny 1989
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chrysostom wrote:The worst thing is that, it's feels like what's going to happen with the rory debacle is that her and the doctor will kiss, she'll remember her (ex?) and go mental at him.


I can't say anything at the mo, but I believe you have no fears of that happening, well 85% sure. :)

boboff wrote:Well I think she is lovely, and I really can't be arsed to analyse any more than that, I enjoy the show, she is pretty lush, I like the new Doctor, I like the stories, they arn't going to change the world but for me and my son it provides entertainment, for which I am thankfull.


Yay, someone else on here who likes her :) I agree with your last part, for me in a sea of crap TV Doctor Who is definitely one of the best things on TV (along with Ashes To Ashes (except this ones ended), Qi and, ahem, Soccer Saturday :lol:

Sidders wrote:Sorry to poke my nose in where it probably doesn't concern me, but I can't believe people are complaining about the doctor's side-kick being badly written into the script and not being believable. Just take a look at the majority of the story lines!!

I used to like Doctor Who back in the old days, and while I will still watch it when I can, I just find it all very confusing these days. I don't think the 45 minute stand alone episode format suits the show. It used to be better when the story would develop over 4-5 shorter episodes, and it didn't try and cram too much into one episode. It was more about the sci-fi rather than about the action. Now-a-days the world is about to end, Doctor has a brain wave, points his sonic screwdriver at something and everything is saved. It's pretty much the same every week. It gets quite boring after a while.


I have to say Sidders, that if I ever watch any Who back I mostly choose the classic run over the current run (mainly Patrick Troughton, Tom Baker, Peter Davison or Colin Baker), mostly as the stories are developed more over a longer period. The two parters of the current series, on the whole, seem to structure fine. However with the shorter stories there are some that are just a bit too rushed. However I'm still enjoying the current run, I'd rather have more new Who than no new Who, although if you had asked me about 10 years ago I probably would have said "Doctor Who? What a load of crap" :lol:
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By Boboff
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I have smallville on series link at the moment Love it!

I also love Lie to Me, & Medium, also Shameless, Gavin & Stacey, ATA, QI, HIGNFY,Jeremy Kyle, the last series of Luther & the BBC news channel.

I don't like Bill Turnbull.

Overall therefore I am happy with my £20 a monthh Sky subscription and 6 Free Sat Boxes invested around the house.
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By Yudster
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Sidders wrote:Sorry to poke my nose in where it probably doesn't concern me, but I can't believe people are complaining about the doctor's side-kick being badly written into the script and not being believable. Just take a look at the majority of the story lines!!

You're mixing up context. In the context of Doctor Who, the storylines have to be believable only in the sense that they don't have gaping holes in and that the explanations they give for things make sense within the context of the show. And I don't have a problem with the storylines' believability, just the general level they seem to be targetted at. My issue with the companion is that her character isn't credible in the context of the plot. She is supposed to be the "normal" one, the human, the girl from a remote village in Scotland, but they've written her with so many contradictions and a lot of her behaviour seems so out of place.They don't seem to have made their minds up as to what she is really meant to be, as a result she's a kind of mish-mash of wide eyed astonishment and over-confident assurance. But as people have pointed out, she is very lovely to look at and I agree that is important too.
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By Johnny 1989
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charlalottie wrote:Isn't she supposed to be the Scottish girl from the remote English village?


Correct, she moved down their with her Aunt as she didn't have a Mum & Dad (I don't believe they explained what happened to her Mum and Dad if I remember correctly)