[Yudster]

It can't be Lisa Hanlon, there are words with more than two syllables, the grammar is reasonable and the spelling and punctuation acceptable. How could you possibly think it is Lisa Hanlon? Have you seen her website?! I think its Chris.

[third_wave]

As I am sure you have recieved a few PM's already we can leave that be.

I think you are either being ironic and trying to get us all going

Someone at the BBC with an axe to grind

Something to do with the Fat bird on the quiz channel

Either way you have an agenda which is clearly hidden.

Why write so eloquently on a fan sight, when you could have written to the Authorities concerned.

With any form of entertainment it takes all sorts, the BBC's broadcasting remit is to try and cater for all sections.

Many people are not Christian in this country, but still they pay for songs of praise

The fishing weather report, farmers programs, Asian programs, local specialist shows.

It's all about choice Sir, and we choose to listen to Chris Moyles as we find him entertaining.

I fundamentally disagree with the points you make about his so called short comings, if you choose to listen then over time I am sure these views will change.

Please either reveal your agenda, or consider the fact that the BBC have a responsibility to provide a variety of entertainment genre's to cover it's public service remit, and with Chris's show attracting 30% of the National Daily Radio listeners, he can't be doing all bad.

So Mr Wogan, please go give Pudsey a kick for me

I agree its about choice...but why should I pay for something I think offends a lot of people, including myself? I am sure a lot of people absolutely adore Moyles but a many others just don't. Why should I not have the choice of not having to pay for a service that I do not want(Beeb, Moyles included). On the other hand, if I am being forced to pay for it,despite my wishes, why should I not have a say in what's being broadcast ,ostensively for my entertainment???

Personally I feel BBC should be privatised..the reason why the takings of private operators are suffering is because they cannot match the financial resources of its state sponsored rival. Privatisation would make BBC a leaner and more efficient organisation and rid it of the rampant corruption and favouritism plauging it at the moment.

Granted that some of BBC's content is good but it does not necessarily mean that all of it is good..nor does it mean that everything on private TV/radio channels is rubbish.

To be fair to Moyles, he does know his boundaries...he knows who he can pick on without getting into trouble.Nor would he ever comment on issues that are potentially touchy. However, he is in a league of his own when it comes to personal insults. Like someone said in one of the posts, he has made a career out of insulting people.But.....does that make it right? He launches personal attacks on people on his show daily but I cannot remember a single instance where people have responded to him in a similar manner....I feel he is just taking the playground bully to the next level...

[SAV1OUR]

It can't be Lisa Hanlon, there are words with more than two syllables, the grammar is reasonable and the spelling and punctuation acceptable. How could you possibly think it is Lisa Hanlon? Have you seen her website?! I think its Chris.

THE Chris would write that??

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I didnt know I had a clickety clickety clique?? More of a cult, give your body and soul to me oh noble one *clap clap*

Nah only kiddin its just that there are a lot of men who are seeming to like these shows, and the huge success of scissor sisters this year has added to the worry, all over the UK around scissor sisters live day there was people rooting out their male members of the family who had been bopping around like Aled in heels to the various tracks, whilst secretly donning leotards, ok maybe not that but, well yer see I just find it funny everybody going ape about it, but I do believe thats changing once something better comes along, a lot of Tv is like that now, 'floorfiller' shows etc.

I am good at dancing though, not like the programme might wish me to be, I'm more freestyle on the odd occasion whilst out. What about you?

[third_wave]

Also, I am writing to the authorities with my views on this issue. Like someone said...would it matter as Moyles allegedly has 7m loyal 'fans'?? Well, I feel public servants (and Moyles happens to be one) should be held accountable for how well they discharge their duties and the same rule should apply to Moyles as it is to the rest of us.

PS: Hmm...So Mr Moyles is a sexist as well, going by the very condescending manner in which you are implying that I am a 'woman' (which I am not,btw)

[SAV1OUR]

Personally I feel BBC should be privatised

Noo....*sighs* no it shouldn't you idiot.

takings of private operators are suffering is because they cannot match the financial resources of its state sponsored rival

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Good. They are rubbish.

everything on private TV/radio channels is rubbish.

Exactly, I agree! *sniggers* Why should Murdoch charge you for your subscription and make you pay for adverts in doing that? Nobodys ever answered me that one! Murdoch is your enemy, much as I hate going on about him he is still a greedy media dictator, Moyles is NOT your enemy, think about it, insults is one thing, but greed in the private sector is quite another you and everyone never address.

I cannot remember a single instance where people have responded to him in a similar manner....I feel he is just taking the playground bully to the next level

They are all what we call mates, something you dont have any of because you cant take a joke. Try going down and socialising at your local pub. Here you will see PEOPLE. Yes thats right! The ones you deprive yourself of except for the Moyles show which you are very lucky to have on your radio, which does demonstrate pub banter - a winning format.

Put it this way Mrs, you have as much chance of hurrahing it up with Jon Snow on leftie news as I have of ridding the world of Rupert Murdoch.

So in the meantime lets face the music and [NOT!!] dance.

EDIT:- BREAKING NEWS, IT WAS A BLOKE AFTERALL, I WIN!!

[third_wave]

no it shouldn't you idiot.

Typical 'Moyles' logic..'It should not happen 'cause I do not want to'

Explain why BBC should not be privatised??One of the most contentious issues between the UK and, say, Russia, is the state control of media. How is state control of anything good for the public???

everything on private TV/radio channels is rubbish.

I'm a Celebrity appears to be one of the most favoured topics of discussion on BBC1 nowadays.

Murdoch is your enemy, much as I hate going on about him he is still a greedy media dictator

Agreed....Murdoch is in it for the money.But I do have a choice of not paying him my sky subscription, a choice being denied to me by the govt in the case of BBC.

They are all what we call mates, something you dont have any of because you cant take a joke

I have a lot of 'mates'(thank you) but I tend to treat them with a bit more of respect, an approach that quite thankfully tends to be reciprocated. Luckily I do not have to bully or intimidate people in order to gain their respect. Moyles's need to do so clearly demonstrates a lack of confidence in his own ability to forge lasting friendships and betrays a typical 'school bully' mindset.

Try going down and socialising at your local pub. Here you will see PEOPLE.

Unfortunately I do not get much time to go down to my local and 'socialise' as I am too busy working,to ensure that the leg you break on your way back from the pub or the heart attack you suffer during the middle of the night is promptly attended to.

[Sidders]

Wasn't something very similar to this posted a couple of months back?

[SAV1OUR]

I'm a Celebrity appears to be one of the most favoured topics of discussion on BBC1 nowadays.

My liking of the commercial sector is indeed limited - to the 4 original channels that existed and did just fine. If anybody is bullying, it IS indeed Murdoch because he takes away what you were paying a bargain price for originally - films and footy - puts an American style gloss on it and ensures that you will be missing out if you do not PAY HIM. Pub landlords go out of business because of this man and the HUGE amounts he charges for a simple footy match or 2. The landlords are BULLIED, if you wanna use that terminology.

A bit of rib tickling for a few minutes in the morning is a tiny dent on a pride. Stealing quality programming and passing it off as your own and slapping a premium on it is whats known as a 'free ride'. Profiting on other people's hard work.

Moyles minds his own, does his own show, his own way, completely originally, and yes you should pay for it, as it is undeniably the best out there - before it gets snapped up as I am sure he will, but would he want adverts on his show? Hmm. I wouldnt.

leg break heart attack

Now you're just putting fantasy in my head, I believe thats what most of Sky's programming is about!

[Console]

no it shouldn't you idiot.

Typical 'Moyles' logic..'It should not happen 'cause I do not want to'

That's a new one, "Moyles' logic", brilliant. What exactly does that mean?

Explain why BBC should not be privatised??

Okay then:-

1. One of the fundamental differences between BBC and commercial channels is adverts; adverts are bad.
2. How would the BBC make money? As I said before, adverts are bad.
3. The BBC takes a lot of risks with shows that other channels wouldn't touch, and this has led to some great shows being played. A commercial channel (one with adverts) tries only to keep the cream-of-the-crop as advertisers don't want to pay alot of money to have their advert air during a show that nobody watches.
4. The BBC offer much more than any other commercial channel. If they turned commercial they may find some of these things, like for instance the BBC website - which is a great source for news and other stuff, aren't 'profitable' enough to keep around.

All-in-all the BBC is great the way it is; sure some things could be improved, nothing's ever perfect, but making a fundamental change to such a well-working organisation is an extremely bad idea.

everything on private TV/radio channels is rubbish.

I'm a Celebrity appears to be one of the most favoured topics of discussion on BBC1 nowadays.

I think it's a pile of crap, perhaps I should complain on behalf of everyone in the galaxy and get the show pulled, because if I don't like it then, obviously, no-one else does either.

[derekacorahsdad]

i think your slating a guy on his own dedicated fansite , so someone off the show notices your voice and airs it

get a life man ,dont come on a dedicated fansite and slag off the guy were all here for

i do belive that your letters or whatever will be filed in the apropriate place

the dustbin haha

[Ballbag]

Oh you stupid piece of w***. You utter ARSE!!

Leave entertainment alone, entertainment doesnt eff about with politics does it?? Shut up, go away, suck on a mothball you old withering dithering Guardianist fuddy duddy. I suggest you go and w*** off to classical FM, 8 million listeners of this great flagship Moyles show DO NOT NEED YOU and your po-faced, chandelier chugging, golf club swinging, chardonnay glugging, small minded drivel. Go and let yourself off you pretentious old fart. Does mummy and daddy know you're using their NTL account?? You'll be late for your piano lessons, or croquet or whatever it is your sort go around doing, ooh I say what a toff pillock.

I enjoyed that. *breathes out*

This is exactly the sort of attitude that Chris Moyles promotes through his show (and exactly the sort we do not need any more of in this country)

People with a lack of brain cells is also another thing we don't need more of in this country. As Console said if you don't like the show,don't listen or listen to another radio station or do something else which is what any normal person would do but obviously not you.

There you go again Flower, presuming that someone who doesn't share your opinion is stuipd/thick/lacking in brain cells. It really is a "stupid" way to act.

[Yudster]

the very condescending manner in which you are implying that I am a 'woman' (which I am not,btw)

I wasn't being condescending, I was being sarcastic. If you would like me to be condescending, I can do that too, along with ironic, scathing (when necessary), biting, incisive, cutting and sharp. I can be nice too. And Istill think you're a woman. A man would have got bored and gone away by now, only a woman would continue to fight a losing battle in this manner once there is no possibility of a positive result. Only women have such resolve. Men understand futility much better than women - women, because they have to live with men, always live in hope..........

[Yudster]

I think her point is that as she is "paying" for it, she should be allowed to express her opinion of it to those who authorise the expenditure on her behalf. Which is absolutely right. The mistake she is making is thinking that somehow we give a toss! I tend to agree with Fowler's basic neurological diagnosis, without necessarily agreeing that it should be grounds for any form of cultural cleansing......!

[Ballbag]

Au Contraire petite fleur.

I'm just commenting about how you seem to insinuate stupidity instantly without asuming differing tastes..... again.

[Ballbag]

Sorry dude. Didn't realise I was picking on you.

*Bfb heads off to Homebase to fetch a life*

[Boboff]

You two are boring, Bag of Pooh you promised to stop it, you can ignore posts by Fowler rather than try and score points.

Anyway the whole point it we have some very sensible points raised by members and new people which you owe it to yourself and them to not spoil by bickering, so please stop, both of you, in this very interesting thread it's tedious and must stop, please.

Yudster, get you and you pheudo agressive stance phrased by continually calling your enemy "she" come on you can do better than that.

Listen, if we bully those who critcise Chris for being a Bully, then we exentuate the criticism, especially when you consider that Chris is funny because he is a bully of sorts, so lets be honest we are on a dodgy wicket there, lets put the other side in and hold back, as Savior and console have extremely eloquently done.

Third wave has not spat and run, lets respect that, he doesn't like Chris, we do, we have to understand that he or she, irrelevant, has a choice, as do we. At the end of the day our jobs are so rubbish we spend time on here, talking shite with kid wits, it would appear thurd wave is a doctor and as such we could all be on the table with his cold hands at the ready.

He doesn't like Chris, for all the reasons we do, and yes we come from a different background, we are more comfortable in Pubs and Cafe's, we could all probably have a laugh with a Trucker, Third wave could not, but is that a reason to dislike someone ?

It takes all sorts, and this has been exciting in terms of a fox in the roost, we have done well, lets not spoil it with childish arguements ?

Please

[third_wave]

Ok guys..Its been a bit of a boring oncall so thanks for keeping me entertained.All I wanted to do was to express my point of view on Moyles. I see people bullied in the workplace day in,day out, its almost institutionalised in many public sector undertakings in this country and I feel its just not on.There is a clear lack of accountability for your actions and a general sense of 'indispensibility'.However, I can see that most of you guys are totally sold to the Chris Moyles view of the world where the biggest bully always wins.

Now, I was not trying to get 'noticed' by the show so my name would be mentioned on it..I can assure you I am above such pettiness.

Also,I do not listen to the Chris Moyles show regularly..I have to admit that I used to, quite regularly, a few years ago but I have noticed that he has become increasingly rude and downright nasty over the last couple of years which has totally put me off the show now. I enjoy listening to people like Vernon and Scott who I think do a great job without resorting to demeaning comments aimed at other people. Scott,for instance, has a sidekick (Chappers) but I have never heard him make insulting comments about him.

Personally I feel Moyles is a bit of a spent force..I think this sort of thing happens to people if they do something for a fairly lengthy period of time..It has happened to me at times with my job. What I feel people should do when it happens is to take a step back, be open to constructive criticism and use the oppurtunity to self reflect. It is all too easy to get set in your ways when you are doing something like DJing every weekday morning for years.

Going by my experience of how public orgs work, any complaint, if pitched at the right level, always gets picked up (there are always managers with little or nothing to do) and I would atleast get a response.

Could someone explain how they work out how many people listen to a particular show?I remember, a few months ago, the Moyles team went away somewhere and conducted a poll on their return to gauge their popularity. The results were highly unflattering(for Moyles),as far as I can remember.

I meet people from a whole cross section of society in my job and I have never had trouble communicating, or indeed, having a laugh with them. You cannot exhonerate Moyles by claiming that his humour is of the streetsmart variety and is aimed at truckers and people frequenting pubs. I think it absolutely preposterous and patronising to suggest that its alright to be bullied if you are a trucker and that such behaviour is acceptable is those circles. I do not believe in backgrounds and think everyone, irrespective of their class,creed,religion and ethnicity should be treated equally.People have the right to be treated with respect and I feel by demonstrating a lack of respect for fellow human beings, Chris is setting a very bad example for the many young impressionable minds who listen to him..and its got to stop.

Peace

[Riamu]

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... finished?

[iSeb]

Explain why BBC should not be privatised??One of the most contentious issues between the UK and, say, Russia, is the state control of media. How is state control of anything good for the public???

Well...

1) You say 'Explain why BBC should not be privatised??'

I say: The BBC, as much as it pains me to say this, is the biggest and best broadcaster in the world. Why, because this is the only country to have a license fee for public broadcasters. Which means that the BBC have no commitments to advertisers or funders, and only to the public.

As much as I like the programmes FOX or ABC in america produce, have you seen their news? It's like The Daily Show with Jon Steward, but not scripted to be funny. It's beyond a joke, so biast its halarious. FOX are up George W's ass. and ABC are the opposite. Where as the BBC is unbiased in its news and only base it on fact.

I'm not saying the BBC are perfect (because Lord know's their not), but at this present moment in time, they are the best broadcaster on this planet we call earth.


2) You say 'How is state control of anything good for the public???'

How old are you? You must be too young to remember or even know about the margret thatcher days of privatisation. Jesus.... Water, Privatised. Gas, Privatised. Trains, Privatised. Buses, Privatised. London Underground, Privatised. Telephones, Privatised... What's come of it? Crap service all round from cowboys trying to make a quick buck.

[third_wave]

[*]One of the fundamental differences between BBC and commercial channels is adverts; adverts are bad.
[*]How would the BBC make money? As I said before, adverts are bad.
[*]The BBC takes a lot of risks with shows that other channels wouldn't touch, and this has led to some great shows being played. A commercial channel (one with adverts) tries only to keep the cream-of-the-crop as advertisers don't want to pay alot of money to have their advert air during a show that nobody watches.
[*]The BBC offer much more than any other commercial channel. If they turned commercial they may find some of these things, like for instance the BBC website - which is a great source for news and other stuff, aren't 'profitable' enough to keep around
All-in-all the BBC is great the way it is; sure some things could be improved, nothing's ever perfect, but making a fundamental change to such a well-working organisation is an extremely bad idea.

Do you think the BBC is an unbiased,honest broadcaster, all because it does not get its revenues through advertising? I think not. BBC is great if you subcribe to the views that it proports but not so great if you belong other sides of the political/ideological spectrum.

Check out this link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... _a_source=

Anyways, the point I am trying to make is that the BBC is not perfect(far from it), it does have its own agenda and,being a public undertaking, there is also a lot of complacency and corruption that goes with it. If privatised, there would be a lot more creativity in the organisation, no one would be indispensible and employees like Moyles would be more thoroughly assessed and constantly kept on their toes.

Graeme Norton publically condoned the use of hard drugs but he still continues to have his show on BBC. I doubt he would have kept his job,had he worked for a private channel.

[iSeb]

Anyways, the point I am trying to make is that the BBC is not perfect(far from it), it does have its own agenda and,being a public undertaking, there is also a lot of complacency and corruption that goes with it. If privatised, there would be a lot more creativity in the organisation, no one would be indispensible and employees like Moyles would be more thoroughly assessed and constantly kept on their toes.

There would be a lot more creativity? Are you kidding? I hate to say this, but I work for the BBC. And I honestly don't believe that for one second. And also, Chris Moyles IS creative. He's one of the most creative broadcasters on radio at this time. have you listened to ANYTHING ELSE on Radio 1? I rest my case.

Graeme Norton publically condoned the use of hard drugs but he still continues to have his show on BBC. I doubt he would have kept his job,had he worked for a private channel.

Richard Bacon ring any bells?

[daztheman]

Angus Deaton! didnt he get thrown of the bbc. last time i seen him i think he was on itv. hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[third_wave]

Water, Privatised. Gas, Privatised. Trains, Privatised. Buses, Privatised. London Underground, Privatised. Telephones, Privatised... What's come of it? Crap service all round from cowboys trying to make a quick buck.

Fact: Privatisation has meant cheaper bills for consumers. Do you think you would be paying £ 7.99 for unlimited calls and £ 18.99 for unlimited broadband if BT held the telecom monopoly?? Privatisation has meant that you have choice of providers when it comes to gas,electricity,telephones,transport etc. Obviously, privatisation came with its own problems such as forced redundancies but on the whole it has been beneficial for the economy and consumers.

France has experienced very low levels of growth for the last 2 decades,mainly due to its inability to privatise many of its loss making,state owned enterprises.

Funding an org like BBC is clearly not sustainable in the long term and I can see it being taken over by some big American (or worse still, Chinese or Indian) media gaint in the future. The welfare state is a failed experiment and is being dismantled,bit by bit. As an insider, I can tell you that the NHS is certainly moving towards privatisation and there are changes expected in 2007-08 which would kick start the process. Do you think BBC would be far behind?

[third_wave]

Chris Moyles IS creative. He's one of the most creative broadcasters on radio at this time. have you listened to ANYTHING ELSE on Radio 1? I rest my case.

And I thought personal attacks, thinly veiled bigotry and generally being obnoxious did not count as 'creativity'.

I listen to most of the DJs on Radio 1 and, to be honest, I do not expect to hear any intellectually stimulating discussions on,say,climate change, from them. That ,quite obviously,not their remit. Their purpose is to engage in light hearted, non offensive banter and play a few tracks in between. However, they should not promote trends that might have a detrimental impact on young people listening to them.

One of the posters mentioned something along the lines of'well,we know Moyles bullies people and its part of his appeal'..Well, some young people do not see it that way and might emulate that sort of behaviour with their peers.

The Govt banned junk food ads on kids TV (as well as programs with a high percentage of underage viewers) today..Should the same rule not apply to Moyles, considering the fact that a large proportion of his listeners are young? I am not saying that Moyles deserves to be sacked at any cost but he should definitely reflect on his behaviour and engage in a great deal of self censorship,for the benefit of his listeners.

[clublander]

Right quick tip for you you utter pr1ck...

DigitalSpy: Radio forum, which may discuss the good and bad points of moyles, the bbc, radio, and other matters

ChrisMoyles.net: a FAN site, which by its very nature, doesn't give a flying f00k about your pathetic daily mail reader rants. If you don't like him, don't post you sad tw4t. Have you really got nothing better to do?

I find it offensive that Radio 3 is allowed to waste our scarse FM and digital frequency space for such a small audience. Would I post my view in a radio forum, maybe. Would I goto a Radio 3 fansite and moan to them? No.

Learn to respect others peoples opinions. I'm sure I hate a lot of what you listen to. Deal with it

Go away, and bore someone else with your repetative nonsensical sh1te.

Thank you.