[Console]

There is currently a reported post in this thread (no points for guessing who reported it), and I should like everyone to know that I am removing it. Now, some of you may see this as a gutless act, but I see no reason for the complaint - the insult given in the post was asked for, literally. If you want to be able to express opinions you have to accept that others can express them too.

Oh, and Viv, before you PM me complaining or moaning about this, or anything else, remember that your PM's to me are blocked, so don't waste your time.

[Vivienne]

Important things? Like being dull? Like making little spelling mistakes? Just because your life is not going well at the moment, and you will perhaps be made redundant, does not give you the right to take your World out on other people. Grow up, handle your problems, and just bounce back! And move forward. I'm discussing this no further from this point. thank you.

[Vivienne]

There is currently a reported post in this thread (no points for guessing who reported it), and I should like everyone to know that I am removing it. Now, some of you may see this as a gutless act, but I see no reason for the complaint - the insult given in the post was asked for, literally. If you want to be able to express opinions you have to accept that others can express them too.

Oh, and Viv, before you PM me complaining or moaning about this, or anything else, remember that your PM's to me are blocked, so don't waste your time.

OK, I shan't be wasting my time... pretty much because you do nothing about nothing anyway.. Thank you very much. Which is exactly my point. This is what you are there for, and the job isn't done.

[Yudster]

Oh, and Viv, before you PM me complaining or moaning about this, or anything else, remember that your PM's to me are blocked, so don't waste your time.

Indeed Viv, clearly much friendlier in PMs. And if you will make a point of revealing in public things which have presumably been revealed to you in PMs, I'm not surprised you're blocked.

Which is exactly my point.

You actually don't have one. You pretty much never do.

[Vivienne]

I do, you just don't see it!! And I was blocked for complaining about you (and a couple of others) so often!! Which fell on deaf ears! You have to be you, or one of the in-crowd, to be listened to.

[Yudster]

No, you have to be coherent and making sense. You are neither, much of the time.

[Vivienne]

That's enough.

[Yudster]

Why, because you say so? If that's your last post then job done - but if not, well, clearly it's not enough.

[Vivienne]

Yep, simply because I say so.

[Yudster]

So you are trying to bully me into stopping then? Another textbook illustration of attempted bullying by the person accusing others of being a bully. Classic.

[Vivienne]

I'm not trying to bully you, no. I'm just being assertive and telling you, "shut it".

[Yudster]

That's not assertive, that's aggressive. It's an easy mistake to make if you don't know the difference, and you clearly don't. Simply saying "no, I'm not trying to bully you" doesn't mean that what you are doing isn't bullying. But of course, in YOUR mind it does, and that's the place where all the correct opinions are held, isn't it? As opposed to the ones that you don't like, like my opinion that SpaceBoy comes across as a bit dull, which, incredibly, is what this is all about.

[Boboff]

Oh No !


This is very enlightening in a number of ways.

1. Viv, to have miffed both Mr & Mrs Moderator and Moderate off, you really should just think about saying sorry.
2. The fact Viv complaints are now being ignored is fantastic, as someone who was accused of sending abusive PM's to someone when I did not, this whole "I am telling off you" is bad.
3. Viv, Yuds is your biggest ally, believe me, you pissing her off should really be the time that you actually stop coming onto these pages, which I do think would be a shame !, but if you can't you really should just wind your neck in. Posting "stop it" and "shut it" is very silly.
4. I shouldn't get involved.
5. I love Yudster

Here is an insult, for your future reference - you're a tit, Viv.

BEST POST EVER !¬

[Vivienne]

1. Now, you know you did send me a pm telling me I had an "obtuse" approach to the Site amongst other things. I don't do lies.

2. I do apologise for the lack of harmony, but Yuds is needing told a few things, and I did it.

3. Yuds is far from my biggest ally: more two-faced than anything - i.e. one thing in pm's, another on the Board.

4. It makes no difference whether my pm's are blocked, because they were never listened to anyway. That was one of the points to my "unbelievable" topic: we do have a mod who moves things from one side of the forum to the other, does a few clips, and thinks that is job done. I also apologised to Chris for the topic, but not to Console.

5. I'm not actually looking for "allies"... I just want to do my stuff (create topics - this is where it ends), and go - argument free. But I do not like to see her picking on characters.

[Yudster]

1. Now, you know you did send me a pm telling me I had an "obtuse" approach to the Site amongst other things. I don't do lies.

How you can deem that offensive is beyond me - or maybe you just don't know what "obtuse" means.

[Boboff]

Actually Viv it wasn't you who complained about my "imaginary" abusive post. I don't know who it was, Console just told me off, and threatened things purely on the basis of some fictional content of a members PM. Not you, I know that. I did say you were Obtuse, I think rather than being rude it should be seen now what a good judge of character I am from Initial contact.

Yuds is lovely, she is, and rightly gets a bee in her bonnet every once in a while and stirs it up, sweet as a Coca Cola Advert I think her very apt comment on the boards a few months ago. Viv, I really don't care what you think, and you don't care what anyone else thinks.

Haven't seen the unbelievable topic, I'll go hunt it out now, sounds good.

When you don't agree with a companies management, you have the right to go somewhere else, you do NOT have the right to expect them to change to suit you. If no one else has an issue, then it's you with the problem not them.

And Longman played along with a young ones reference I started, now I am really impressed with that. Little things and all that.

Take a couple of breaths before replying Viv, least said soonest mended my dear.

[Vivienne]

There was more to it than that, I'm afraid.

[Vivienne]

Actually Viv it wasn't you who complained about my "imaginary" abusive post. I don't know who it was, Console just told me off, and threatened things purely on the basis of some fictional content of a members PM. Not you, I know that. I did say you were Obtuse, I think rather than being rude it should be seen now what a good judge of character I am from Initial contact.

Yuds is lovely, she is, and rightly gets a bee in her bonnet every once in a while and stirs it up, sweet as a Coca Cola Advert I think her very apt comment on the boards a few months ago. Viv, I really don't care what you think, and you don't care what anyone else thinks.

Haven't seen the unbelievable topic, I'll go hunt it out now, sounds good.

When you don't agree with a companies management, you have the right to go somewhere else, you do NOT have the right to expect them to change to suit you. If no one else has an issue, then it's you with the problem not them.

And Longman played along with a young ones reference I started, now I am really impressed with that. Little things and all that.

Take a couple of breaths before replying Viv, least said soonest mended my dear.

I do have a right to be heard. The same as everyone else. I don't have a problem with Chris, just his mod. ** takes deep breaths, remains very calm indeed**

[Yudster]

Clearly not.

[Boboff]

You wouldn't let it lie !

[Vivienne]

I'm on a mission !!! Seriously though, I just saw "red" when I saw her picking on yet another character, and thinking it's ok, so I kind of decided to turn it around.

[MK Chris]

...but she wasn't picking on another "character".

(As a side note, I certainly wouldn't describe SpaceBoy as a "character".)

[Vivienne]

She was, she was targetting "Spaceboy" on here, and in ramble. That's what made me so mad. Anytime someone doesn't buy into her neat little World, she pounces. Recently, it was Markool. Then Longman (good God!). The real reason for her "gripes" is because she is going to lose her job soon, so the entire World seems to have to suffer for it. I think she doesn't like me, because I dare to stand up for myself, and go on creating things whether she approves or not. She told me in a pm about all the things I have done wrong on the Board, but really, I don't bother. I just fix it, and move on. That's the difference.

[MK Chris]

Far be it from me to defend Yudster when she is perfectly capable (far more capable than me) of defending herself. However:

She was, she was targetting "Spaceboy" on here, and in ramble.

Anytime someone doesn't buy into her neat little World, she pounces.

I disagree. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that this is far closer to a description of yourself, than of Yudster.

Recently, it was Markool.

He's an offensive, racist, lying prick. He deserves everything he gets thrown at him.

Then Longman (good God!).

I also thought Longman's post sounded self-important, to be honest. But like she said, he could have been joking.

The real reason for her "gripes" is because she is going to lose her job soon, so the entire World seems to have to suffer for it.

I happen to know that's not true.

[Vivienne]

Markool has a right to speak too. As does Longman. Longman has done well for himself in America, and I think that is just great! I hope it continues.

Maybe she has sorted the job situation.. I don't know (or care).